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Old 23rd March 2010   #1436
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Originally Posted by Jim@SSL View Post
Well, I guess I'm not going to be the most popular person around here with the following post, but I think I should make our position clear.

As I have previously posted, we have been testing a Release Candidate beta version of new Duende software. It makes some significant improvements over V3.1 in terms of performance on most systems. However it does not satisfactorily address some of the outstanding bugs that some users are experiencing. As such, I have decided to pull this release and set all available development resources into solving some of the "showstoppers" that people have posted here. Realistically speaking this means we won't have a new software release for Duende until May/June.


I'm ready to take the flak... but please consider my openness over this matter (and the nearly 50 pages in this thread) and take it as it is meant - an acknowledgement of what we currently have on the table is not up to the high standards that SSL sets for itself and that the whole (now extended) team is focussed on solving as many of the outstanding issues as is possible.
Hi Jim,

Been watching this thread and thought it time to make my comments and views known. Here's the problems i'm having and my take on the whole situation...


1. Control surface compatibility… when returning to plugin that has been set already, the plugin does not send its current parameter position to the control surface!! So the control surface is showing default parameter positions and not the actual positions of the plugin. This causes problems when you want to tweak settings!! You touch the control surface rotary encoder and the settings go to default??

2. when saving presets using the pro tools presets menu! Recalling presets and the plugin parameters do not change to reflect the new settings!! Adjusting the preset that has been recalled its difficult and can cause randon settings!!

3. The BIGGY!! Duende will crash pro tools. Some days as many as 7 crashes!! All caused by Duende and the crash logs confirm this. Mostly when closing one session and opening another that have SSL plugs inserted. But also some session will just randomly crash? the more plugins the more it seems to crash. Again all crash log indicate Duende.

I can live with 1 and 2 but I can’t run a professional studio and have 7 crashes a day!! All of which mean a total re-boot of the system stopping work for 10-15 minutes each time. That’s too much downtime and makes me look like an amateur studio. Also each crash… dumps my root settings folder for my plugins!!

I would expect a few bug and crashes from a small company with a new product, but SSL? The World leaders in Digital mixing?? If a Duality was crashing 7 times a day, what would you do for the client? What would you say?

Now here’s my main problem! I never had so many crashes till I authorised the 64 channel option and added x-verb and x-comp, because of this I have incorporated Duende plugins in several big projects I started before adding these options. Now I’m getting too many crashes to work efficiently and keep my clients happy, so what can I do? Go back and remix 2 whole albums without Duende or carry on suffering this problem and losing about an hour a day in down time.

Pro Tools HD6 accel + Contrl 24 + hundreds of plugins = never crashes
UAD-2 + 30-40 plugs a session = never crashes
Duende PCIe = constant crashing

2006 when Duende was launched! 4 years later it’s still not ready for prime time use?? Seriously!! It should be taken off the market till its working?

So now you have offices over the pond! Well how about a trip up the Interstate 5 to Scotts Valley and ask the Putnams how they make their PCIe card and plugins work without constant crashes.

Here’s the good part the plugins are phenomenal, x-verb and x-comp rock and the channel strip I prefer over the competition.

Leopard 10.5.6
pro tools 8.0.1

Regards, Chris Daniels
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