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Originally Posted by coyotekells  macleod, great insights man!!
Tune: my number one qualm is I can't figure out how to leave parts of the vocal UNAFFECTED! I often prefer to only tune/edit the parts of the performance I can hear errors in.. the rest I leave exactly as it was (assuming I'm working with a good singer).
How the **** do you do this without moving those parts to another track all together?
AutoTune: AT will remain a staple in every studio, no matter what they mix with, because you will get clients that NEED AT at tracking stage. You can be a purist all you want, but the reality is that some hit record makers (and lots of non-hit record makers) need to track their bad singing through AT. I want to give the client whatever makes them comfortable, and if they need to hear the tuned vocal in their headphones to get vibing, then I want to give it to them. I'm really not concerned with "vocal skills" as much as someone who can just make a great record. I've heard singers who's skill was amazing, but it didn't make them special on the track.. something with a more interesting voice, better vibe, and lots of AT (not T-pain, just no more flat notes)
Melodyne is super cool, but I've never used it extensively.. only when I had a surgical project I couldn't fix with anything else..
If you're tracking mostly, choose AT -- it will work for more situations.
If you're just editing/mixing, then Tune and/or Melodyne will serve better.
Btw, why do people thing AT sucks so bad? I think it's lack of knowing how to operate it correctly mixed with bad singing. If you have a singer who's good and just hit a few notes that could've been more on point, AT smooths everything out without ever touching graphical mode or doing anything fancy with the knobs. and if u need to really change things, the graphical mode seems to be sufficient... or maybe i'm the inexperienced one? |
I have to agree with you on that. AT seems to get alot of bad press, but I find it the best of the bunch (haven't tried Waves yet). Melodyne is great, as you say for surgical work, when something specific is wrong, and needs to be dealt with neatly, but I notice far more artifacts in Melodyne than in Autotune when it's configured properly.
It sucks that we can't have the best of both worlds, a program with the tracking of AT Evo (evo is considerably better in my opinion for tracking, and ease of use), and the graphic abilities of Melodyne. Maybe that's what Waves were trying to achieve, but didn't consider the ease of use quite as much as they ought to have.