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Originally Posted by Acid Hazard  No it isn't. |
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Originally Posted by Acid Hazard There's nothing Eurodisco about ANY of that. Sorry, but i just don't think of Giorgio Moroder when listening to Skinny Puppy or Front 242 or Nitzer Ebb. 242 and Nitzer Ebb were actually EBM.
And how can you even say there's a similarity in style between TKK, KMFDM, and Ministry and LIMP ****ING BISQUICK! Come on! Rammstein might use the same elements, but that's about it. |
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euro disco kept going beyond 1982 you do realize that and that giorgio moroder wasn't the only euro disco artist ever? also ebm is a sub genre of industrial, as is coldwave which is closer to trent reznor's stuff.
as far as how can i say there's a similarity between tkk, kmfdm and ministry and limp bisquick? let's see, limp bizkit is a mish mash of mainstream hip hop and metal with lots of distortion applied to the elements other than just the guitar. that pretty much also sums up tkk, kmfdm and ministry and nin. they all heavily use loop based samples treated to try to disguise the origin, they all mix rap and singing in the lyrics, they all use synths mixed with metal guitar, etc... the only difference is limp bizkit is more about white guys with marijuana/custom cars than white guys with heroin/power tools. big whoop you hear the same noises in both bands. it's just they apply them in different contexts in the songs and have them at different prominence levels and the lyrics are different.
personally i don't like tkk or nin or ministry (ministry had 1 industrial album the rest has just been bad synth pop and then metal, tkk are just a bunch of immature idiots who got kicked out of other bands and sound like ass, and nin never impressed me because of the overly metal period ministry influence).
industrial covers so much territory, anywhere from ebm (front 242), new ebm (combichrist), hard synth pop (and one) to experimental noise (merzbow), found sound industrial (einsturzende), jazz industrial (foetus), rock industrial (nin, ministry), country industrial (pale horse), etc... and all things in between.
everyone argues what is and isn't industrial all the time in other forums dedicated to the genre... problem is there's always someone who is a rivet head who will argue that his preferred brand of industrial is "the real" industrial. i won't go there, but anyway it covers a lot and because of it, limp bizkit is so damn similar to tkk, nin, ministry et al because of the hip hop meets metal crossover. all those bands have done it as well, they just focus on heroin and detroit vs. marijuana and east l.a.