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Originally Posted by W-W-Int  did you ever listen pretty hate machine? you know nin's first album...
head like a hole is euro disco in the verses and thrash metal in the chorus.
and nin is not the only "industrial" band out there (actually i really consider them more a rock band than anything else but hey)...
front 242 was considered industrial as was nitzer ebb and skinny puppy and they all have euro disco elements in there music as did nin.
nothing is the definitive "industrial" sound. it isn't about your inner emo or whatever some ****** thinks i'm trying to convey... it's about what you are and what you write and how your song all comes together in the end. mostly it's about attitude and image. the difference between [marilyn manson, and nin, and ministry, and thrill kill kult, and kmfdm] from [30 seconds to mars, rammstein, limp bizkit etc...] is what? that's right image. if you listen they all use the same elements in their music, it's all about band image mostly. if you put on a rammstein or limp bizkit song with trent's picture psted over it in a video and played it back to back with a kmfdm video someone who hadn't heard either band before but had it and each genre described to them would assume limp bizkit was an industrial band based on similarity of sounds/style.
once again there is no do one thing -> process it this way->add this->add that formula you can get from a forum that will give you an "industrial" song. barry manilow can never write an industrial song, no matter what he uses gear wise or how he processes it. it would simply be a distroted element pop/rock song. because barry manilow has no insight into that kind of sub-culture. i know i cant write a gangsta rap song because i have no inkling of what life on the those streets is really like. it would come off as gangsta as vanilla ice.
same thing here. people on the outside looking in saying just do blah blah blah as that's what i hear a lot of in xxxx have no freakin clue what "industrial" music really is. all you need to do is figure out what it is that you feel angst about or cold towards or atrracted to etc... and write about it from your persepctive. 4/4 or some other drum pattern plus 12 tone scale is 4/4 plus 12 tone scale. it's how you decide you want it all to fit together and what you want the lyrics to say that makes it what it is. |
There's nothing Eurodisco about ANY of that. Sorry, but i just don't think of Giorgio Moroder when listening to Skinny Puppy or Front 242 or Nitzer Ebb. 242 and Nitzer Ebb were actually EBM.
And how can you even say there's a similarity in style between TKK, KMFDM, and Ministry and LIMP ****ING BISQUICK! Come on! Rammstein might use the same elements, but that's about it.