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Originally Posted by AlexK  A fair answer although I really, really do not believe mixing on a board is somehow technically superior to mixing ITB. Listening to the radio isn't going to tell you anything - everything is mashed beyond belief. |
I don't think it is technically superior, I believe that it is sonically superior. However a newbie engineer is not going to get a great album by mixing on an SSL, while a seasoned engineer will get a great sound from, say, audacity. It depends on the engineer, HEAVILY. But give that seasoned engineer the SSL and were talking sonic gold. That is not to say that a great album can't be done with a minimal setup. Just listen to "Jagged Little Pill" album. All done in a home studio on ADATs. Trust me, the radio broadcast may have a brick limiter on the music, but you can still hear the overly compressed overly harsh music that comes out. There is no dynamics to be heard. However tune over to a classic rock station and it sounds completely different. To tell you the truth, we are both right. As there are no wrong answers. It comes down to "How does it sound."
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Originally Posted by AlexK 'Brick-style digital harshness' IMO arises when content is recorded, and then over-processed with a different final sound in mind. You put crap in, you get crap out. Computers make it easier to polish craps, but it's still a polished crap. There are PLENTY of recordings out there which have been done ITB which sound absolutely fantastic. There are also PLENTY of recordings out there which have been done on 'custom-built top-end' outboard gear, and sound goddam awful. |
Very true, turd in, polished turd out.
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Originally Posted by AlexK I also don't understand your '$100,000 mouse vs. a $50,000 SSL' logic - are you saying it's cheaper to buy and maintain a large analog console + outboard than to buy a good functioning computer with a good recording package + good plugins? |
I can't even justify spending the $100,000 or so that it costs for a digidesign console. plus the other $17,000 for the HD system. A mouse does the same thing as the console. Hell, the mackie control does the same thing. It just lays "everything" out for you. If that beaks, try servicing that. Uppp, you can't, you aren't the chinese that manufactured it. You have to buy the channel strip that broke. Or the $300 fader. Yes it costs that much. I've read the white papers. While, with an SSL you get the SOUND. That is worth the money and trouble.
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Originally Posted by AlexK I'm all for doing things in an alternative fashion, but there are some routes which IMO are just not worth the hassle...
Just my 2c. |
People are different, your way probably works for you and sounds great. I'm an idealist, and like to change the way people think about things. With all this expensive sterile sounding stuff, both hardware and music, I want something different that sounds good. If it means trouble, then it is worth it to me if it sounds good. My setup costs are very minimal because I am not spending money on expensive digidesign equipment and $500 for a set of plugins that don't compare to the real thing. At the end of my troubles I hope that other people can use what I have done to their advantage without the trouble I went through. Freedom is the outcome I wish to represent.