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Originally Posted by FeatheredSerpent Yes but he can't even hear that the vocals have been processed in the first example he posted up!
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Lots of exposure to processed vocals in many forms of currently popular music, lack of experience listening to artifacts, little experience tracking vocals with an excellent mic and clean chain, new to the craft, etc. All recording is artifice.
Most people don't hear MP3 artifacts, the artifacts in satellite radio, compression, limiting, etc. until it is pointed out to them. Once you know what to listen for it becomes obvious.
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I think it's irresponsible to even provide suggestions for how to do it under these circumstances tbh.
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Perhaps. But maybe the best approach is to encourage the OP to listen to what the plug-in is doing, to learn how what he does impacts the sound, to encourage making comparisons between his work and the good work of others, and to learn.
Most of our first recordings and first mixes were dreadful. Yet we learned from them and hopefully our recent output is better.
I work almost exclusively with classical music and musicians in real spaces. Yet I learn a great deal trying and experimenting with popular music techniques and equipment. It improves my ear. It also heightens my respect for those that record and mix good quality rock, pop and rap recordings. These engineers have amazing chops.