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Old 30th November 2009   #14
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Originally Posted by NorseHorse View Post
Just dropping by, and I wanted to chime in the "phase" issue. I'm listening on crappy speakers at the moment and don't hear it, but then again, they would only reveal if something was waaay off. Here are a few thoughts...

If you had your mics as close as possible, you shouldn't have any phase issues. And contrary to ThatOleBlues' suggestion, you don't need to level match mics. That's part of the beauty of M/S - changing to levels to determine the width. Judging by your gain structure (-4 on the sides relative to the mid), you should have a pretty decent balance (which you do).

If something sounds off to you, your likely culprit is the reverb. Try applying it to the whole mix after it's summed. Or... apply it just to the original side and then run it through a m/s plug, thereby preserving the true +/- mirror imaging required for m/s. By applying the reverb separately to the positive and negative side, you are no longer in TRUE m/s land.



Good luck! Sounds pretty good already. thumbsup
Thanks for dropping in NorseHorse! btw, what do you consider to be "crappy speakers?" My monitors are hardly pro (event tr5's), but definitely better than some options out there.
I made the recording with a blumlein pattern mic adaptor (rotated 90 deg so mid mic facing guitar) so I doubt any phase issues would have developed in mic placement. I will try your advice and put the reverb on a mix of the side tracks instead of on each side track individually to keep me in "true MS land" which sounds like the place to be. I may also just post the tracks dry - I suppose this is the real listening test. Thanks for the feedback!!
Edit: Just added mp3 files. ms402 is reverb on the sum of the sides , ms4dry is... dry
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File Type: mp3 guitar ms4dry.mp3 (1.15 MB, 145 views)
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