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Originally Posted by B.Rupe  My initial assertion to the original post is that the answer to his question is "yes". A tube mic through a tube pre IS necessary, provided that is the sound you desire or, ina good way accidently discover. Groove 9028 is asking a question that, essentially has no right answer. As wrong as it is for me to say "yes" it is also wrong for anyone to say no. Or that some technique that they would not use is wrong or incorrect.
Groove 9028 is presenting a question that is indicative of someone who is developing an interest in the process of recording. And he will most likely come to his own finite conclusion regarding tube mics and tube pres as his involvment continues over the years.
I boldly encourage Mr. Groove9028 to experiment with this combination, along with any other combination, or universally considered incorrect method. Because, speaking as a musician and producer, thats where the art is.
If Colombus had not had a revisionist mind, the world would still be flat.
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Well my opinion on this:
"If Colombus had not had a revisionist mind, the world would still be flat."
And then just maybe the Native American would still have his homeland as well.
The tube to tube to tube to tube would be a Platinum selling Grammy winner in the right hands and the right gear with the most important part of the chain "The Talent" any day of the week.
I get the most stunning recording's from mine and others vintage guitars with my Lomo 19A19 on the 12th fret and my innerTUBE MM-2000 Mag Mic in omni as a room ambient mic, in a great sounding room and always through my tube micpres. Either through my early Groove Tube MP1's,stunning, my unmodded V72's, stunning, quite and accurate as hell, my pair of Vipres "Nuff Said".
Then there's my "1934 Gibson Roy Smeck Stage De Luxe" with the Lomo 19A19 at 10:00 8" above the 12th fret, 12" from where it cross's the center of the sound hole, across the bridge, across the entire top of the guitar and aimed at the end pin in the side of the guitar. The explosive voice of the guitar from the sound hole, the attack of my nails and the sustain of all sustains, then the incredible resonance of the guitars 75 year old top is there in all it's glory, stunning is over used but correct.
Then the innerTube MM-2000 Mag Mic in omni 12' away and both mics run through my Marquette Audio Labs Dual V72's modded with the 56db gain.
Oh my god, this sound would end any argument about tube to tube. I can crank the Mag Mic just a tidge and it feels like your being crushed by the damn guitar. Makes you want to attack back again and again but one cannot reach the attack threshold physically that the Roy Smeck can handle. But it's damn fun trying and it makes one feel he's the Lomo with your face smack in front of the Smeck with Tony Rice ripping it.
In closing in other apps when a compressor's needed I use the same chain and use my Groove Tube Glory Comps 1st and my 2nd choice is Aspen Pittmans 1st Compressor the Groove Tube CL1S, it's a badass.
Additionally, I like tubes a bunch and I've a cherry pair of 1081's, 1064's, Calrecs,
1272's, API 512's and all this gear is damn good no argument there, they kill. But they can't touch the above setup I described with a tube mic or no tube mic.
Frank Zappa would turn over in his grave if he could with any talk of rules and would get up outta that grave if he could and kick said rules makers ass as well.
Hell "It's Good If You Like It"
Regards ,,deda,,