Quote:
Originally Posted by 807Recordings  Just my opinion on this:
Vinyl sounds right when done right. As a DJ there is nothing digital that touches it. Believe me I had ran Mastering quality convertors out our CDJ's on the Alpha dynacord system we had in toronto. Even the Berghain here in Germany the vinyl sound better.
""Sounds Better""
Yes that is subjective. If I was in the business to make boring but technically good records I would do something different than use tape, vinyl, etc.
Digital's biggest weakness to me is the actual convertors and the media types.
YES I finally heard Pink Floyd Dark Side of the moon in SACD and forgetaboutit. No vinyl I have topped it. I have heard also on some SACD the limitations even of tape. I can't remember what SACD it is as it is trapped in a box in Canada right now but the Symphony recording on the SACD is just scary awesome.
Point is at this period of time for me as a DJ and Producer there is just nothing as tactile, immediate, and better designed than vinyl.
As a music lover, whatever does the job the best I say.
Steak or apple, like I said. What is better? None if used right they all have their places where they outshine each other. It comes down to taste and situation. |
that is exactly what I said: Vinyl DOES sound better then CD when done right:
- between 6-9 minutes per side
- 45 RPM
- excellent mix and mastering
- good cutting
- good pressing
if you reduce hat specs vinyl always sounds worse then an excellently produced and mastered CD ....
tons of proof out there.
I have been comparing CDs and vinyl in clubs for ages. I have witnessed the same thing as you: as soon as I put a record on, things get alive. but just in comparison and ONLY if I was using 45ers. NONE of the 33 1/3 cuts I have can compete with a good CD master...
also: MP3s suck galore in the club. its like someone is putting a curtain before the music. ..
it is the missing treble on the vinyl cuts plus the harmonic distortion that ppl like. did you read what I wrote up there?
sorry to tell you by demistifing it, but I dont know why I should go on supporting that mythology. I dont believe in gods either.. ;-) - just in soulful music.b
the whole topic is WAY to complex to reduce it to "vinyl sounds better then CD" ... the problem is that noone brings 24 bit / 96 KHz WAVs into the club that have been EQed and saturated in order to compete with the coloured vinyl-sound.. also, I dont think very good of the converters in modern CD-players... but generally spoken everybody in digital domain knows that today we have really good DA converters (in sound-cards)... so that is not the problem.
and about Berghain... of course minimal tech(house) that was produced in a very slick way, with loads of space inbetween the notes, sounds great when cut on vinyl. it just gets the missing harmonic distortion that should have been added in the first place ...
EDIT:
the reason why the vinyl version of "dark side..." is probably more sexy then CD and SACD might be the fact that you miss all the hiss and crackle and saturation ;-) ...
its funny. remastering engineers should treat some old masters with artefacts to really reproduce the way this music has been listened to back then ... ;-)
EDIT2:
I think you consider another guy at the UAD-forum. I am not a big fan of Pink Floyd after Ummagumma and The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn ... Syd Barret was such a loss... ;-)