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Old 12th November 2009   #49
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Originally Posted by narcoman View Post
you cannot learn to use a tool effectively in three days for real world situations. Same reason that a degree {of which I have three !! } dont teach you a job.


You can get better using these tools by doing it yourself - there's nothing difficult about them. I say if you need to be "taught" protools - you aint trying hard enough!! The tools themselves certainly dont teach you a darn thing ..... you wanna be able to do something in PT ? It's ALL in the ref manual - same as any other music software...
Respectfully (and trust me, I mean that), you haven't a clue as to what's involved in those classes. Who said anything about 3 days? It's not just a written test that you study for, take, then blammo ... there's your certification. The focus is 100% on honing in on the skills you already have, and have learned in the reference manuals, and making you lightning fast at them ... utilizing and learning the tools from the manufacturer the way they were designed to be used. Passing these courses can take years ... not days. And another thing ... being a "certified operator" means the 210m level or above, not below.

After the 110 level, the course is 100% practical (with a small side written test). The practical exams given by your instructor are extremely stressful, everything is timed ... if you go a second over the time limit for a given task, you fail. If you get under 90% on these exams, you fail. If you make an extra keystroke or mouse click, you fail. When it gets up to the expert level, the tasks, time limits, and expectations are quite honestly 10x more demanding than any session I've ever been in. I have seen Juno award winning engineers flail and die on the expert exam. I have seen some of the best PT operators and engineers in the country have to take the test multiple times to get it right ... some still haven't. It's all about being tossed into the fire and working your way out practically.

You see, this is the issue. Not a lot of people know what's involved in these courses. They see "Pro Tools Certification", look at the price, and make assumptions. To back up what TravisK said, whether or not the actual piece of paper means anything to you or not, the education is there. These courses are designed to make you a lot better at your job, which translates to value for money, and savings to your clients. Especially as a studio owner, how can this be seen as a negative?

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