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Old 1st October 2009   #213
wade goeke
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Originally Posted by 3rd world order View Post
i dont want that sound EXACTLY... what i want is to take the germ pre into the Same Territory... and perhaps further. the sound files were just to point in a direction.

i know what the germ pre sounds like. i was one of the first germ owners and perhaps it's loudest cheerleader... so it's my dream to have a bigger version of my favorite preamp with more knobs & features... i'm suggesting a direction.. whether it's possible or wade agrees with the aesthetic is a different kettle of fish.. but i have to suggest it.

i think the sound represented by the files comes from banging the input transformer of a neve... i got really close to this with a 3114, banging the MIC PRE input with a sampler... its one of the wonderful sounds you can get by plugging things in wrong (line out into mic pre input)... kinda like the 1176's unintentional "all 4 ratio buttons IN" slam mode.

i'm sick of clean.. gimme more hi-fi dirt. i don't want a Copy, i want Similar But Different... a cousin, not a twin.

to me those 2 example tracks represent some of my favorite sounds ever on a record... consider them Inspiration.

selah
Have you tried pounding the GERM to see if it gets you something you like?
Part of the features on the experimental "super germ" were for just these things.

You can go line in with two different impedances and beat both knobs and turn down the output...or you can beat the input and turn down the output...or go mic input with it hooked up "wrong" like you said. Turn up Drive and Feedback, pad, thick, impedance etc.
At Wageners we have liked both knobs at around 7 and backed off the output...usually with the Thick set to the 3/4 selection.
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