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JEGG · 16th September 2009

I'm surprised to find this discussion still going on. It's interesting.

A couple of points:
1. Someone mentioned being leery about attaching several thousand dollars of mic's to a home made disk.

Think of it this way: With my construction, it is the very rigid and almost weightless disk that is attached to tried and true hardware-such as a short solid aluminum AB bar-that have held thousands of dollars of mic's very many times over many years.

2. A variety of materials have been used for "real" disks over the years. Why not use superior materials when they are available?

3. I have compared my disks to the MB's, and they sound remarkably alike-when the dimensions are alike, except that mine seems to reflect significantly less from about 1-4k.

4. Just as there are a variety of dimensions and tastes to AB omni's, and stereo arrays of cardioid and hypercardioid mic's, so can there also be a variety of approaches to THE DISK (all genuflect, now).

And for the record: the MB's are not to historical convention. Where is the lamb's wool molting all over the mic capsules and everything below the stand? (I may be incorrect in remembering the disks were based on a wood disk, originally, then made from perspex, and now?)

5. A past era was very hung up about the use of tilted omni's, and not just for disk use. This can be found in older engineering books. This has long gone by the wayside, as mic makers now offer all sorts of tilts, peaks, diffraction spheres, pressure rings, and shelves-why be a slave to an abstraction?

6. No one has mentioned using a shuffler, which is often mentioned as integral to the disk technique. Highly recommended when recording large forces. When used as intended, it contributes to a sense of spaciousness, and, of course, more lower frequencies will be directionally reproduced than without.

I'm not advocating my own disk contruction, I mention it to suggest that there are options worth exploring in the design and use of the disk.

Sometimes, it seems that we are becoming fundamentalists bowing to One Incarnation of the Sacred Disk. Fundamentalism is fine, I guess, but be sure to use the fleece of the sacrificial lamb. The lamb should be slaughtered under the light of a full moon, excepting nights which occur during feasts of the major warring monotheistic traditions.

16th September 2009	#46
JEGG Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 941	Slaves to the past I'm surprised to find this discussion still going on. It's interesting. A couple of points: 1. Someone mentioned being leery about attaching several thousand dollars of mic's to a home made disk. Think of it this way: With my construction, it is the very rigid and almost weightless disk that is attached to tried and true hardware-such as a short solid aluminum AB bar-that have held thousands of dollars of mic's very many times over many years. 2. A variety of materials have been used for "real" disks over the years. Why not use superior materials when they are available? 3. I have compared my disks to the MB's, and they sound remarkably alike-when the dimensions are alike, except that mine seems to reflect significantly less from about 1-4k. 4. Just as there are a variety of dimensions and tastes to AB omni's, and stereo arrays of cardioid and hypercardioid mic's, so can there also be a variety of approaches to THE DISK (all genuflect, now). And for the record: the MB's are not to historical convention. Where is the lamb's wool molting all over the mic capsules and everything below the stand? (I may be incorrect in remembering the disks were based on a wood disk, originally, then made from perspex, and now?) 5. A past era was very hung up about the use of tilted omni's, and not just for disk use. This can be found in older engineering books. This has long gone by the wayside, as mic makers now offer all sorts of tilts, peaks, diffraction spheres, pressure rings, and shelves-why be a slave to an abstraction? 6. No one has mentioned using a shuffler, which is often mentioned as integral to the disk technique. Highly recommended when recording large forces. When used as intended, it contributes to a sense of spaciousness, and, of course, more lower frequencies will be directionally reproduced than without. I'm not advocating my own disk contruction, I mention it to suggest that there are options worth exploring in the design and use of the disk. Sometimes, it seems that we are becoming fundamentalists bowing to One Incarnation of the Sacred Disk. Fundamentalism is fine, I guess, but be sure to use the fleece of the sacrificial lamb. The lamb should be slaughtered under the light of a full moon, excepting nights which occur during feasts of the major warring monotheistic traditions.