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Old 25th August 2009   #530
Em Kay
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Originally Posted by Empty Planet View Post
If true, of course I'm completely with you.

It is also a fact, however, that audio files represent vastly more complex sets of numbers than 1 + 1 = 2.

Is it possible that there subtle complexities that are masked by the algorithms some DAWs utilize to sum files? Is it possible there is an averaging occuring somewhere in the process? Is it possible....?
You raise an interesting and valid point and at risk of diverting this discussion completely I'll rattle this out in as clear and concise manner as possible: Yes, it is perfectly possible (and expected) that a given representation of digital audio can produce errors due to the finite resolution available, however this is more of a fixed point vs. floating point discussion rather than singling out specific sequencers for comparison (AFAIK the overwhelming majority use 32/64bit floating point whereas PT uses 48bit fixed point, thus the discussion is pretty much limited to PT vs the world).

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Are you then stating unequivocally that you believe the cheap eqs in the thread I mentioned, other than design differences, produce identical results to their expensive counterparts?
Without meaning to duck out of this point I am unfamiliar with the thread in question, however I will give it a read so I can get an understanding of where you're coming from

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The simplicity of the 1 + 1 analogy is very seductive, and it seems to match up to how we want to believe the systems we have devised are working. That alone is cause for at least mild disquiet.
Well, one way of looking at it is that if the system (CPU) is not working, then the least of your concerns is whether your DAW is working Again, I do get your point and respect your skepticism, but what we are dealing with here is the nuts and bolts of computer logic, something that is built from/with staple mathematic principles.

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Perhaps the answer is simple -- I have no allegiance to being "right" in this -- but I would accept that answer only from an individual deeply fluent both in the mathematics of sampling and the actual coding techniques used by specific DAWs.
Oh sure, I totally agree with you. Again, I respect your skepticism, as after all I am one of about a million voices on the internet and I'm by no means an expert. By all means don't take anything I say as gospel, do some research on your own and come to your own conclusions. If it's a topic you wish to learn more about I'll have a dig round for any starting points I can point you in, however I can't guarantee it won't bore the socks off you
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