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Old 6th October 2005   #15
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Originally Posted by GearHunter
If you see a $40K SSL, do NOT buy it, unless you have a lot more money to spend. Buying an SSL is a big commitment, and you need $20K to $30K in addition to the price of the desk. Shipping, refurbishing, installation, power and climate-control issues are ALL real challenges and real costs that if you don't have the budget for, you're fuct.!
I would say in the old days yeah.

But with an extra $10K you can do the installation and wiring.

Finding a good tech to work with you is not as difficult as it used to be.

And if this is a personal studio purchase you can fix parts as you go.

The recapping you can do in stages(the most important being the power suppy).

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Originally Posted by GearHunter
We talk to people all the time that buy a "great deal" SSL off EBay or the open market for short money, realize too late it's a train-wreck, and then call us looking for help. And guess what? The HELP (parts, service) is NOT CHEAP. When they find out how much it is to replace all those bad switches ($17K or more for a 48 channel board) they get sick. !
Again do it in stages.

Yeah if you do through PAD you will pay through the nose.

But if your tech is worth his salt you can find the parts cheaper.

You will just have to make a lot of phone calls.


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Originally Posted by GearHunter
Sorry, had to get on a sopabox about that, but when you say "You can get an SSL for $40K" it gets my Irish up. !

Again i wonder why that is?



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Originally Posted by GearHunter
The other thing people always want to find out is about SSL sidecars. They will buy a bunch of old I/O modules from us or elsewhere, and then try to make a "sidecar". Here's the dealio on that: IF IT WERE CHEAP AND EASY TO MAKE AN SSL SIDECAR, EVERYONE WHOULD HAVE THEM. And if you notice, NOBODY has one. You can't even really power up a single module or two easily. Spare modules on the market are for people with SSL consoles who want more modules. Those MINi-Gs and the like are one-off custom-built projects. There have only been a handful made. Because by the time you make a 16 channel, non automated SSL summing mixer, you will have spent so much time and money that you might as well look in to getting a real analog console, whether it be an SSL or something else. Why spend northward of $30K for that when you can get a used Trident 80C or a NEW Audient ASP8024? And an SSL G Compressor for your rack !

SSL is coming out with some more cool rack-mounted gear tomorrow, so keep your eyes peeled for that!
I agree on the SSL side car.


I disagree on the Audient which is as bland sounding as you get.

The Trident imparts its signature all over.

Also it routing option is short changed.

The older SSL's unmodified are not the greatest of sounding consoles, but they still are useful when mixing.
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