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Old 6th July 2009   #116
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Would anyone care to comment on arpeggi? Production and sound and mix wise....
(im planning on getting arpeggi tatoo on my neck)
I feel the arpeggi vocal is lacking...its not as good in some parts...rather limp at times....half assed at times....
ive heard countless older live versions with better vocals.....

How do you get arpeggi intro drums to sound like that?
can you hear the compression?
Beg to differ on "weird fishes/arpeggi." The studio version is a serious evolution of the live version I saw on the tour they did when they tried out the song. The guitar arrangement/mixing is stunning. Here's my 2cents on the mix, from a post I made sometime back on TapeOp:

Thom/Nigel's use of reverb is dynamic. They really use it as an instrument to create emotional space/dynamic changes. To ask what reverb does Thom use, assumes that there is a single set up. Their mixes are always moving. Take the song "Weird Fishes/Arpeggi."

Listen to the way they pan the guitar parts to create tension in the arrangement. At the start, the first guitar is at 2 o'clock and the second comes in hard left. This leaves a nice little space for the vocal reverb to sit and creates tension. The arrangement of the guitars leaves me anticipating the moment when the panning arrangement will be balanced out (I want that hard left space balanced with another guitar or mid-rangy instrument). This finally happens at 1:48 when the third Arpeggio enters hard right and starts the song's ascent into a big dynamic build (as another guitar enters at 11 O'clock, and then another at 3 O'clock...).

There's also a nice example of the wet/dry reverb move in this song. Compare the big pre-delayed vocal reverb at the start of the song (0:58->) to the moment just after the first crescendo. There is a break in the middle of the song, perhaps the emotional moment of stillness after the "escape." At this moment, the big reverb is replaced by an intimate ambiance.

These little moves suggest an evolving temporal view of the mix--very cool.
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