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Old 6th July 2009   #137
Duardo
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I apologize for responding to posts from all over this thread at once...but I honestly though that this was a thread I'd responded to months ago and didn't bother looking at it until today.

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I am disgusted by all the hype surrounding new DSP ''innovations'' with usb connections that get marketed in magazines and sell for $3000 only to lose %80 of their value and go out of fashion in a few years to be replaced by whatever gimmick they put out this year.
I'm not aware of any USB audio device that costs anywhere close to $3000...

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I am tired of plugins that cost absolute sh!t to reproduce costing $1000.
There are plenty of good plugins that cost quite a bit less than $1000, and probably plenty that cost $1000 that are overpriced. But there are also some great plugins that are quite expensive.

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Emulators emulating emulations that fall short.
Be honest here...you just said that because it sounds cool, right?

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When I buy a piece of gear the first thing I ask my self is how much money did the company spend to produce this. I am not talking about research. I am simply talking about components. The purchasing decision is based strictly on that.
If this is true, then you're certainly overlooking a lot, even if you only buy hardware. Doesn't it matter what the gear sounds like? There are plenty of poorly-designed boxes out there with expensive components in them. By your argument, then, they are better than a cheaper, well-designed (and better-sounding) box?

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Insane for telling people to buy gear with actual components that cost money instead of buying software in a box bade in china? Is that so crazy?
Are most software boxes made in China?

More and more software isn't coming in boxes at all.

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If you think of synthesizers as keyboards trying to reproduce the sound of real instruments you are missing the point of what synthesizers are about.
Actually, that's exactly what synthesizers are all about, or were at first...

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I know that there are endless possibilities in the computer and great emulators emulating emulations but I am just not that open minded like that.
What do you think that the Eventide and Lexcion boxes you claimed you'd like to have in your studio are?

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Digital does suck. I am disappointed there are so many internet bullies trying to make this a witch hunt with some mob justice thrown in.

I have been disappointed with digital sound so many times.
I kind of wish I hadn't bought a computer and endless frikkin upgrades just to hear good sound and touch real faders.

I now have Mac/Logic annd a Logic control. But I have to upgrade my m-audio converters to Lynx Aurora 16 cause these ones suck the life out of my beats.
So, you're not saying that digital sucks...just that [i]cheap]/i] digital sucks, right?

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Either bring a valid argument to the table about why I should choose to buy digi-gear and invest my hard earned money into putting some rich fatcats kids through college over gear that gives me actual tangible components or shut up already.
You're making music, right? And the music you're making doesn't have any tangible components, does it? So if the digital gear you're looking at does a better job than an analog piece, making your music better, is that not a valid argument?

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I guess I am not the only person to misspell the word lose but on a more serious note analog is better because it costs more money to produce and customers get a lot more tangible value for their money. This is the point I am stressing. I have yet to hear a valid argument from the opposing members.
I would take most $500 digital compressors over most $500 analog compressors on the market any day. Especially considering how you can use that $500 compressor on pretty much as many tracks as you want to.

Don't get me wrong, I own some fairly expensive analog gear that I don't know of a digital replacement for. But I also have some plugins that I use a lot that have their place as well.

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And the undisputed fact you are constantly trying to divert attention from on your witch-hunt is that analog gear offers more tangible value to potential musicians and studio owners than digital because the raw material resources that make the analog product what it is are of greater monetary value that those of digital and software gear.
I would say that if a piece of software helps generate more income than a piece that has components, then it's offering more value to a musician or studio owner.

It may not be "tangible" value, but who cares? Value is value. And in most cases I'd say income is tangible.

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They wouldn't make the gear like that if it wasn't so profitable. That's an important piece of the picture
Another important part of the picture is that people wouldn't buy it if they didn't like it...or if it didn't work.
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