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Originally Posted by Careyn  Any clearheaded thinker would agree that you have difficulty answering the million dollar question of why should we choose expensive digital equipment that costs absolut **** to produce over analog equipment that is expensive to produce and gives us real tangible value for our money. You can't answer this so you hide behind intellectually haunting language. And it is not working.
You are constantly trying to turn this into a me vs you debate but the fact of the matter is...
Here we go again...
Once again in big bold letters so people can see how you are not responding to this:
analog gear offers more tangible value to potential musicians and studio owners than digital because the raw material resources that make the analog product what it is are of greater monetary value that those of digital and software gear
My experience and your experience has absolutely nothing to do with this and doesn't change a god damn thing!
The truth is this argument is not is not in any way shape of form related to my or your personal qualities as an engineer and my or your personal experience.
When I ask you why should a potential buyer choose expensive digi gear that offers less tangible value in components than analog gear that costs real money to make you say:
''You have no experience.''
When I ask you why should a potential buyer choose expensive digital gear that offers less tangible value in components than analog gear that costs real money to make you say:
'' Digital gear has worked for some people''
When I ask you why should a potential buyer choose expensive digital gear that offers less tangible value in components than analog gear that costs real money to make you say:
''I used to work analog. I have more experience. I used to do this I used to do that''
All Absolutely irrelevant.
Will you stop blowing smoke up my ass with ''my experience'' and ''your experience'' and the rest of the bull and answer the question.
Do you think expensive digital equipment that costs absolutely **** to make represents greater monetary value in components than expensive analog gear that is costly to produce? |
I haven't attempted to answer your
million dollar question simply because I don't think there is a single proper answer that will fit every situation.
What is of value to me may not be of value to you and vice versa.
Value is, indeed, relative to the value holder and his situation, your peculiar absolutism notwithstanding.
If you want to talk monetary value, that's an interesting discussion to some folks but not particularly to me.
FWIW, I do
not spend a lot of money on gear or software these days -- though I've spent what seem to me like
enormous amounts in the past on (mostly) hardware.*
I
will say that, while you seem to be
very attuned to the cost of raw materials in the manufacture of hardware, you seem to miss the very real consideration that a
greater cost in the early stages of a hardware product is in the design and development and manufacturing process set up of that product.
Those costs of 'intangibles' parallel in ways both direct and indirect the design and development costs of
software products -- which you appear to be hellbent on ignoring.
[And this
is an aspect of
personal interest to me, because I write software: database and web developing. The work I put in is
real work. The product of my efforts manifests in enhanced business productivity (we hope) as well as enhanced product marketing and support (we hope). I haven't engaged on these topics in this thread, however, because this is
GearSlutz not an econ or business site and I figure my parochial concerns are just that.]
On the
language thing... have you ever seen me attack anyone because they had bad grammar or spelling?
I don't think so.
I should hope that you would afford
me the same consideration and respect for my freedom of expression even when I occasionally allow myself the quaintly peculiar luxury of good grammar.
PS... With regard to software vs hardware expenditure:
I don't use expensive plug ins; all my plugs either came with my DAW or were free or shareware. I
do pay the extra ~$100 for the add-on package when I update my DAW software. (I'm currently two versions behind.) I've never really felt shortchanged on extras.
In the mid-late 90s, I bought Sound Forge and CD-Architect and I've updated SF twice. Around 1996 or so I bought some compression non-realtime FX (also from Sonic Foundry, now Sony) and used them for a few years before switching to XP and having to leave them behind. Everything else is shareware or freeware.
By contrast, I've spent many tens of thousands of dollars on hardware but 99% of the time all I use is one 88 key piano weighted MIDI controller, my converters, one of my two favorite mics [I hardly even use my '57s anymore now that I realize I actually like my vocal mic, an Oz-made NT1 on my Blues Jr amp], an old ART Dual Levelar (love that thing, can't help myself), and my mixer, which I use for its none-too-glamorous (but to me quite likable) pres and for delivering realtime tracking cues (the one place where digital fails me is in cue mixing -- even a couple ms of latency makes me uncomfortable in some circumstances like tracking solidbody electric D.I. -- basically when there is no appreciable real world acoustic sound to 'cover' the tiny delay).