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Old 5th July 2009   #487
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Originally Posted by trapper View Post
Doubting the validuty of a null test is just... ignorant

Unless you've discovered a completeley new paradigm in DSP and mathematics in which case you should post less on GS and more in academic papers as you are well on your way to a Nobel prize!

Howabout a Nobel prize for a DAW that doesn't require a bug fix upgrade or patch? Maybe this is why there are differences? I dunno? Di you ever think 2 daws may differ do to sloppy programming, bugs etc...?
Anyone who thinks the Null test proves that DAWs sound the same needs to understand driver development and software development in general

The way DAW's implement plugins, summing , Sound card drivers etc... is not all subjective but it is also not subjective. Sure there are VST , RTAS and ASIO specifications but there is still room for interpretation and error. Maybe this opens the door for DAWs differing in sound? There are multiple ways to solve identical problems.

Again, buy a transparent splitter and record multiple tracks simultaneously to multiple DAW's and build a whole song with this method. Then do multiple mixes with the same plugins within the multiple DAW's of that song you recorded . Then do your null test with the multiple mixdowns.

Then tell me if the null test works. Until then please give it a rest. The way the Null test has been tested here is suspect and does not include all the different variables of why or why not DAWs may or may sound different.

Null test as used here is a farce. It simply doesn't ot address all the variables and internals of the DAWs

"Unless you've discovered a completeley new paradigm in DSP and mathematics"

First off there is more to DAW's than DSP and Math. What about the platform? the linker? compiler? driver implementation
your comment is short sighted. How many bug fixes does cubase, samplitude and Digi release to fix errors in their software? I'm not saying all the bugs alter the sound but can you say with 100% certainty that atleast some of them they do not?
With your theory all DSP reverb plugins and hardware would sound identical. Surely the math has been around for 500 years
But yet my H3000 reverb sound much different than my spx 90 reverb. There is one word you are 'implementation'
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