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I find there is a balance between how hard you hit the ADC and how much gain you make up using some kind of clipper.
If you get that balance right and make an MP3 from a 24 bit file, you can get it to sound pretty good for an MP3.
I'm biased because I personally don't like limiters and don't use em!
I like the punch left just the way the mix engineer intended.
The recording engineer spends a ton of time getting a killer drum sound on a track only to have the nuts taken out of it at the mastering stage, because of the use of a lookahead limiter at the end of his chain.
Not in my studio!
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