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Originally Posted by MarsBot  Hey Mark,
Thanks so much for taking the time and energy to point out the pseudo-science of the "null" crowd. I'm with you all the way on this and I love the fact that whenever someone creates files that "should" null but don't as you did, the nullers go ballistic about the methodology. They don't really understand science and its relationship to real-world observations; they're pseudoscientists as you say |
What is pseudoscientific about a null test?
I mean, it is a test as a direct response of an observation.
In my eyes that is a correct procedure to find out if there is something to observe.
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Also, the claims that your opinions are invalid because you are not famous or have not worked with famous bands are completely meaningless, especially given what passes for top-level production in the world of modern pop.
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I think that that argument started out with Mark claiming that he has done this and that and so he was an autority.
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Ultimately there will be some scientific verification of the sonic differences between DAWs. As Thomas Kuhn says, there will be a paradigm shift. We just have to be patient. Keep up the good work!!
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Science or pseudoscience, a null is a null.
If things null then there is absolutely no difference.
The same numbers will arrive at the DA converters and then will produce identical sound.
It's not magic,
it's intrinsic to what digital is.
On thing is sure, you cannot do a null test on the plugins of Samp.
So i you use them then there may be a difference.
But i think that we had established that there is nothing different about the summing engine of samplitude compared to most other DAWs.
You have to remember that in digital, there is nothing beyond the samples themselfs.
So if stuff nulls in a comparison then whatever you are comparing is identical.
You'd have to bend the universe to change this.
But there is one limitation to a null test.
It will only give meaningfull results if there is a completely perfect null.
If there is a residu then there is a difference and however subtle it would possibly be hearable and thus constitute a difference.
So one needs to interpret null tests correctly.