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Bassmankr · 25th June 2009

Back to the drawing board LOL, your revision has room for a toilet but no room for a sink. Computers have a practical limit to how far away they can be (mouse/keyboard/video moniter cords) and you are probably past that, also they need some volume in their space because they produce heat so they need cool air for their fan/heatsinks to work hence sticking them in a larger HVAC space. There is an extremely narrow sightline for anyone in the Iso, musicians NEED to look at each other, it's how we play better. Any outside door is best opening into the Live room, moving equipment in and out should not be through the control room. It will keep the control room cleaner too. Just flip/rotate the plan if you want the bath in the southwest corner. If you want to experiment more with the bath it would help you to print out what I posted and cut up the spaces and bath fixtures then move them about, seems like you are not getting how much space you need to get a toilet and sink working right (basically 5' x5' if side by side or 3' x 7' if oposite for minimums with the door being in the RIGHT location). Per my drawing if one of the bandmembers needs to use the bath, recording can still go on (just without them), if the engineer needs to use the bath then everything but rehersal stops regardless. I think requiring a Bath off the control room is just going to kill the design with this tight of a space. The best I can think of is as per how I drew it. If the bath's west wall comes into the live room more you could move the bath door to the Control room's north wall. The trouble is that in that position you would have to slide past any speakers/console/desk in the north portion of the Control room just to use the bath plus good luck getting any HVAC equipment in or out, so that kills that option too. Just get over having the Bath open into the Control room and start refining the spaces/sightlines. Remember keep as MUCH volume as you can for your spaces since you have a small space which means go with a minimum wall thickness (single stud with resilant channel and double up the drywall), Doors should be single doors (solid core wood or sandwiched). A space this small will NEVER be a "MID SIZE" studio so treat it/design it for what it is and spend your construction dollars accordingly/wisely. Make it nice but remember the "Vega" principle, you can pour $100,000 into restoration/customizing of a Vega but in the end you won't have a Mercedes, it will still be a Chevy Vega LOL.

25th June 2009	#157
Bassmankr Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,907	Back to the drawing board LOL, your revision has room for a toilet but no room for a sink. Computers have a practical limit to how far away they can be (mouse/keyboard/video moniter cords) and you are probably past that, also they need some volume in their space because they produce heat so they need cool air for their fan/heatsinks to work hence sticking them in a larger HVAC space. There is an extremely narrow sightline for anyone in the Iso, musicians NEED to look at each other, it's how we play better. Any outside door is best opening into the Live room, moving equipment in and out should not be through the control room. It will keep the control room cleaner too. Just flip/rotate the plan if you want the bath in the southwest corner. If you want to experiment more with the bath it would help you to print out what I posted and cut up the spaces and bath fixtures then move them about, seems like you are not getting how much space you need to get a toilet and sink working right (basically 5' x5' if side by side or 3' x 7' if oposite for minimums with the door being in the RIGHT location). Per my drawing if one of the bandmembers needs to use the bath, recording can still go on (just without them), if the engineer needs to use the bath then everything but rehersal stops regardless. I think requiring a Bath off the control room is just going to kill the design with this tight of a space. The best I can think of is as per how I drew it. If the bath's west wall comes into the live room more you could move the bath door to the Control room's north wall. The trouble is that in that position you would have to slide past any speakers/console/desk in the north portion of the Control room just to use the bath plus good luck getting any HVAC equipment in or out, so that kills that option too. Just get over having the Bath open into the Control room and start refining the spaces/sightlines. Remember keep as MUCH volume as you can for your spaces since you have a small space which means go with a minimum wall thickness (single stud with resilant channel and double up the drywall), Doors should be single doors (solid core wood or sandwiched). A space this small will NEVER be a "MID SIZE" studio so treat it/design it for what it is and spend your construction dollars accordingly/wisely. Make it nice but remember the "Vega" principle, you can pour $100,000 into restoration/customizing of a Vega but in the end you won't have a Mercedes, it will still be a Chevy Vega LOL.