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Bassmankr · 23rd June 2009

Did a quick scretch on graph paper to get you out of the rough and back on the fairway. PM me your address and I'll mail it to you if needed. Graph paper, pencil, eraser, straight edge, and 15 min. got you a workable layout with roughly the same size control room as your last sketch plus a bath, HVAC-computers space, ISO, and Live rooms. Grab some graph paper, pencil, and straight edge and I can give you the basic room shapes with this post. Since you have a 25' x 25' space I just assumed this was an outside dimension, if it is an inside dimension, great you will have an extra foot in each direction to play with. Figuring an outside wall thickness of 6 inches on all four sides this leaves a 24' x 24' interior space so make a box on the graph paper 24 squares high by 24 squares wide. Label each side (north/east/west/south), this is just so I can tell you where to put your walls. Once you have it down on paper remember you can flip/mirror/rotate the room arrangement so don't worry, this is just so you have the basic room sizes and relationships.

Here we go, step one, from the northwest corner of your graph paper 24 square by 24 square box, go east 15 squares and make a dot. From the northwest corner again, go south 17 squares and make a dot. From the northwest corner again, go east 10 squares and then go south 16 squares and make a dot, now draw lines between this dot and the first two dots. This is your Live room.

Step two: from the southwest corner of your 24 by 24 square box, go north 6 squares and make a dot. From the southwest corner again go east 10 squares and make a dot. From the southwest corner again go north 7 squares and then go east 9 squares and make a dot, now draw lines between this dot and the first two dots. This is your Iso room.

At this point you will have the trapaziod interiors of both your Live and Iso rooms with a 1 foot wall between them.

Step three: from the southeast corner of your 24 square by 24 square box, go west 13 squares and make a dot. From that dot go north 8 squares and make a dot. draw a line between those two dots, that is your wall between the Iso and Control rooms. From the southeast corner again go north 8 squares and make a dot. Go another 8 squares north and go west 2 1/2 squares and make a dot, draw a line between those two dots. From the southeast corner again, go north 16 squares and then west 10 1/2 squares and make a dot, draw lines between this dot and the ends of the prior two lines. You now have the shape of your Control room (per rough dimensions) of your last posted drawing with a 1 foot wall between the Live and Control rooms. The big change here is that you have a one segment splay Control room wall instead of your drawn 2 segement.

You can see by now that the remaining space in the northeast corner is for your HVAC and Bathroom (I know you drew it in the southwest corner, just flip/rotate what I've draw and it can be there). Put a 6 inch wall (1/2 square thickness) between the Live room/Bath and then the Control room/Bath.

Step four: From the northeast corner of your 24 by 24 square box go west 4 squares and make a dot. From that dot go south 4 squares and make a dot, draw a line between the dots. From the northeast corner again go west 4 1/2 squares and make a dot. From that dot go south 4 squares and make a dot, draw a line between the dots. You now have a 1/2 square (6") wall between the HVAC-computers room in the northeast corner and the Bathroom just to the west of it. Extend this wall straight south to the Control room with a 3' louvered door swinging into the bathroom and against the south wall. You can alternately use a 3' bifold louvered door hinged on the south. The HVAC needs a 3 foot door opening to get equipment in/out and needs room air for safety, the computers throw off heat too, hence a louvered door. You will put the toilet on the north wall of the Bathroom and the sink in the southwest corner of Bathroom (allowing for the HVAC door to fully swing open). You will put a 3 ' solid door in the west wall of the bathroom and have that swing into the northeast corner of the Live room with probably the hinged side at least 1 1/2 feet from the north wall. This will allow a clear path to the HVAC room and will leave space for bass trapping material in the northeast corner of the Live room.

That's it, you will still need to figure windows and doors between the Control/Live/Iso rooms plus a door to the outside somewhere. Don't know if you called Dave Dalton but his layout is much different from this one, his sacrifices Control room depth for width but has superior flow and sight lines to this plan. This should put you in the ballpark of your latest Control room drawing. You could still do the 2 segment splay as before with this plan but that will make the Live room too narrow and less usable.

23rd June 2009	#140
Bassmankr Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,907	Did a quick scretch on graph paper to get you out of the rough and back on the fairway. PM me your address and I'll mail it to you if needed. Graph paper, pencil, eraser, straight edge, and 15 min. got you a workable layout with roughly the same size control room as your last sketch plus a bath, HVAC-computers space, ISO, and Live rooms. Grab some graph paper, pencil, and straight edge and I can give you the basic room shapes with this post. Since you have a 25' x 25' space I just assumed this was an outside dimension, if it is an inside dimension, great you will have an extra foot in each direction to play with. Figuring an outside wall thickness of 6 inches on all four sides this leaves a 24' x 24' interior space so make a box on the graph paper 24 squares high by 24 squares wide. Label each side (north/east/west/south), this is just so I can tell you where to put your walls. Once you have it down on paper remember you can flip/mirror/rotate the room arrangement so don't worry, this is just so you have the basic room sizes and relationships. Here we go, step one, from the northwest corner of your graph paper 24 square by 24 square box, go east 15 squares and make a dot. From the northwest corner again, go south 17 squares and make a dot. From the northwest corner again, go east 10 squares and then go south 16 squares and make a dot, now draw lines between this dot and the first two dots. This is your Live room. Step two: from the southwest corner of your 24 by 24 square box, go north 6 squares and make a dot. From the southwest corner again go east 10 squares and make a dot. From the southwest corner again go north 7 squares and then go east 9 squares and make a dot, now draw lines between this dot and the first two dots. This is your Iso room. At this point you will have the trapaziod interiors of both your Live and Iso rooms with a 1 foot wall between them. Step three: from the southeast corner of your 24 square by 24 square box, go west 13 squares and make a dot. From that dot go north 8 squares and make a dot. draw a line between those two dots, that is your wall between the Iso and Control rooms. From the southeast corner again go north 8 squares and make a dot. Go another 8 squares north and go west 2 1/2 squares and make a dot, draw a line between those two dots. From the southeast corner again, go north 16 squares and then west 10 1/2 squares and make a dot, draw lines between this dot and the ends of the prior two lines. You now have the shape of your Control room (per rough dimensions) of your last posted drawing with a 1 foot wall between the Live and Control rooms. The big change here is that you have a one segment splay Control room wall instead of your drawn 2 segement. You can see by now that the remaining space in the northeast corner is for your HVAC and Bathroom (I know you drew it in the southwest corner, just flip/rotate what I've draw and it can be there). Put a 6 inch wall (1/2 square thickness) between the Live room/Bath and then the Control room/Bath. Step four: From the northeast corner of your 24 by 24 square box go west 4 squares and make a dot. From that dot go south 4 squares and make a dot, draw a line between the dots. From the northeast corner again go west 4 1/2 squares and make a dot. From that dot go south 4 squares and make a dot, draw a line between the dots. You now have a 1/2 square (6") wall between the HVAC-computers room in the northeast corner and the Bathroom just to the west of it. Extend this wall straight south to the Control room with a 3' louvered door swinging into the bathroom and against the south wall. You can alternately use a 3' bifold louvered door hinged on the south. The HVAC needs a 3 foot door opening to get equipment in/out and needs room air for safety, the computers throw off heat too, hence a louvered door. You will put the toilet on the north wall of the Bathroom and the sink in the southwest corner of Bathroom (allowing for the HVAC door to fully swing open). You will put a 3 ' solid door in the west wall of the bathroom and have that swing into the northeast corner of the Live room with probably the hinged side at least 1 1/2 feet from the north wall. This will allow a clear path to the HVAC room and will leave space for bass trapping material in the northeast corner of the Live room. That's it, you will still need to figure windows and doors between the Control/Live/Iso rooms plus a door to the outside somewhere. Don't know if you called Dave Dalton but his layout is much different from this one, his sacrifices Control room depth for width but has superior flow and sight lines to this plan. This should put you in the ballpark of your latest Control room drawing. You could still do the 2 segment splay as before with this plan but that will make the Live room too narrow and less usable.