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Originally Posted by XHipHop  No. Wow. Ok...we have a fundamental problem here if you even asked that question. I think you need to start over and reread everything...but if you just watch those 2 videos from the other thread, it will actually save you a lot of time and put everything together in a nice little package.
Your question is so flawed - charts prove nothing, unless you want to look at today's charts vs. the charts of a few years ago and see how the old model is dying? Waste of time though, we know how they look.
I think only two albums this year have gone over a million sales...Taylor Swift and the Hannah Montana soundtrack...maybe Eminem has? i haven't looked since the first week of June.
In those videos you'll also find that Trent Reznor made $1.2 mill gross his first week of sales, metric debuted at #1 on the billboard charts JUST FROM ITUNE PRESALES and on their own label, etc.
Mosdef is selling his album on a tshirt, btw...you buy the tshirt and there will be a download code on it...and soundscan has decided that they will count tshirt sales as sales. it's hilarious/awesome! (oh wow it just debut'ed at #9...wonder how many were tshirt sales)
But very few bands in this new business model sell their music at walmart now. So yeah, question is flawed.
God, i'm almost tempted to throw that shill word out again...i'm sorry i know you hate it...but it's really strange how you're unwilling to accept things despite all the evidence. |
You said said the music industry was dead, this is binary, it's dead or it isn't.
The only way I can think of to measure this is to look at sales, the charts are still dominated by traditional record labels, that seems pretty unequivocal to me.
You said the two models can't coexist, yet the charts of the outlets you named are full of releases from traditional labels, you go on to name a number of "new model" acts that are doing great, how is this not coexisting ?
The make up of the charts both the P2P and legal, seem to show that major labels are still here and dominant, you may know better but you seem unwilling or unable to demonstrate this.
I totally accept sales aren't what they used to be, you can prove this with data, I can't understand why anyone would argue the contrary. I certainly didn't.
You can toss out any casual insult you like, you've called me a fantasist and stopped just short of calling me a shill. You won't provoke me and it won't make what you're saying any truer.
James