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Originally Posted by ISayItLikeItIs Yes, but if it takes too much time, the artist simply isn't ready to work with me personally. If I need to spend 6 hours on a lead vocal doing the things you said (and believe me I have many times.. but it ain't happening again..), the artist just ain't good enough for me. Then it's: "Back to the rehearsal room. Step your game up, before you step in my studio!"
Even with the most trained vocalists, I've had to coach them. But they normally get it right after the first time I tell them something. If they are slow, not working hard, and simply not talented, they won't be asked to come back to my studio.
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No disrespect intended, but that does sound like you don't live off doing this thing. No problem with that, I don't anymore either, but if you were you wouldn't always have the talent be as talented as you'd prefer, but you STILL have to make a confident record, so you do what you have to do. That's what you're hired for. I like and share the idealist view in your argument, but in the context of making records professionally, if every time you found the artist to be a little less able than you'd like, you wouldn't touch the project, you just wouldn't work a lot. If at all.
Like I say, I hear some of that, as at some point I lost the ability or will to put hard "typewriterwork" into projects that didn't at all "sing" to me, myself.....and therefore no longer do this for a living. But this thread is in the context of making professional records, just highlighting a technique used to get the task done. Tis not an ethical or moral or such thing. Tis just getting the job done, and tips on how to.