[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by Ken Lewis

Speaking for myself when i produce, i take many takes because i'm usually pushing the hell out of an artist to give me their absolute best. If you think its organic to just take a take or two and use that, then i'd say you could count on one hand the number of artists probably truly capable of an amazing performance like that.

Pushing the hell out of an artist doesnt always mean yelling or screaming, it usually means coaching, teaching, playing psychologist, singing them the lines the way you want to hear them and helping them achieve it. giving them the freedom to experiment, giving them the time to find their comfort zone or let their voice open up right.

ALL OF THESE THINGS TAKE TIME

all of these things can turn what would have been a mediocre or just good vocal performance into what can be a great vocal performance.

you keep every take because you never know what take is going to have a magical moment.

you comp everything together later to find all the best moments of magic that make sense and sound like one great performance. if you can tell it was comp'd, someone dropped the ball somewhere.

Ask any singer i've produced and you'll absolutely know they remember getting a serious workout in the vocal booth.

Those of you siting the most gifted singers, or the old motown recordings that have stood the test of time clearly have never heard all of the records made in those days that were painful to listen to because they arent around anymore. plenty of crap has been made in every era or recording.

lol.....in with reality and out with the mythical rubbish