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Old 14th June 2009   #695
MartinHB
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Hi Martin,

I think that your last sentence shows that you do not fully understand AD/DA... No disrespect meant... You mention VSTIs a lot so I take it that you are coming from a 100% ITB background? Anyway, the reason I bring this up is because I think that perhaps you are doing something wrong somehow when recording your mix, because I definitely do not hear any obvious/noticeable difference when I listen back to stuff recorded via the Mixbus-AD.

The reason that I want an answer from A&H is because I expect the differences from Channel-AD/DA versus Mixbus-AD/DA to be subtle, and am worried that I might not notice the difference while mixing, but that my mixes may be slightly compromised.

For example: (A) I just completed a mix, and used 17/18 DA for all of the elements that didn't need individual attention (EQ/FX/etc)... I had channels 15/16 free -- had I known that 15/16 would've given me superior DA, I'd have used them instead... The difference might've been too subtle to hear on the spot, but ultimately, perhaps my mix couldn've been just that little bit better had I used 15/16 instead of 17/18.... (B) I recorded some FX returns using 17/18 (because I will be doing my final in another studio later) -- had I known that channel AD is superior, I'd have moved my FX-return cables into the channel inputs rather than using the stereo-inputs and recording via the Mixbus-AD.

So yeah, basically I'm just being totally paranoid and ridiculous... but then, aren't most of us? If we weren't then we wouldn't be here on Gearslutz...

Jason
No offence taken in regards my understanding of AD DA stuff
My background has never been tape but I have used a number of consoles and outboard in the past but for seven years Ive been mixing itb. Im also not the most techie guy but in general I know enough to get me by.

I do suspect Im doing something wrong because It sounds like a little more bass gets added and the lower mids sound ever so slightly mushier. I suppose to my ears the mix loses a bit of its mojo.

I havent tried sending all the live signals back to individual tracks in the daw. I will be doing that tomorrow.

Im interested to know if it was only FX returns you recorded from the mixers main outs? If it were would you really notice any difference? I didnt notice anything until I was recording back around 10-16 of the mixers channels all going to the stereo out (CH 17-18)

Im like you in that I want to know my mixes arnt being compromised by using the mixers main outs to record a stereo master. But at the moment I am experiencing an inferior sound to what I was listening to. Perhaps its to be expected as I havent used a console for a number of years with a Daw so this is maybe the norm. And I could be expecting to much from the console because for the price and its features its really a bargain. But I could easily be doing something wrong and if you have any ideas please let me know.
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