Tom,
I answered your question concerning tight dance kick sounds, but the thread has been closed, by the time I wanted to submit my message. Since I wrote so much that I can see my fingerbones coming through the skin (depending on lightening conditions
), at least I want to submit the answer. Anyway, here it is...
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Originally Posted by Tom Sigmond
If I make it too short, the low end is disappearing.
If I put a compressor on it, the fatness of the low end disappears.
If I use a compressor with the low frequency switch so the low end say 100hz< doesn't triggers the compressor, I don't get this tight low end sound either. Its then more compressing the presence of the kick and bass.
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Hi Tom,
first I have to say that I neither have the knowledge nor the experience of Mr. Brauer, but I do a lot of dance music and know some things that might help you.
What I do to obtain a chest kicking punch, as Michael put it, is that I simply use two bassdrums. One that has enough low end for ages and another one that´s really tight and upfront. That way I can define the amount of low end very precisely, when it´s time to mix. And often there is something going on even at 30 - 60 Hz, but the impulse has to be short in order to keep it tight and punchy.
Nudge the two bassdrums by very short steps of e.g. 100 samples and listen to the changes of frequencyresponse and attack !
What definately helps doing club music is a subwoofer, so you can make a judgement based on what you hear AND feel. When listening to dance music on good systems, note where you feel the kick : is it your chest, your stomach or even your feet ? That also gives you information on how to mix your own kicks.
Another thing you might try is to shorten the kick, by chopping off the end (with a short fade out) or by timestretching it a little. Sometimes this really helps the groove and makes the kick even tighter. I often prefer shortening the kick to compressing the hell out of it.
A lot of the things I mentioned also go for hiphop. I hope this was helpful !
Rock on
Bill