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Old 8th September 2005   #8
ghosttt
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Originally Posted by blayz2002
From your discription, sounds kinda like it's 1 of 3 things,

1. Either the vocals aren't compressed enough..(so pulling them up in the mix makes it not sit) so your guy is mixing them low to compensate.

2. They need fequencies cut to get them to sit and once again you can then pull them up and not have them fight with the busier passages.

3. Your guy is approaching the mix wrong..and should pull everything but the drums down in the mix get the vocals right first, (eq, level, compression) and then add in the supporting sounds in order of importance in the mix...make the vocal the lead in the track...if he mixes House he may be leaning towards trying to mix it like a dance record..which tend to have the vocal sit lower in the mix.

this is what i think is the exact issue..

dance records are very high end and low end,
with alot of middle cut out to reduce mud,
howver in hip hop that grit and mud lays in the middle and is much needed
actually its invited.

i notice when i have gotten his mixes, i sit and listen in my house, (i have a protools setup with krks) and they sound very level across the board but his vocals aren't slapping me in hte face which i want. i then proceed to run a 12 band on the overal mix and find that i always need to boost at 2k and 250 a few dbs to really get some of that energy back

from reading about mixing and mastering, am i wrong but a mix should be as full as possible before mastering, mastering shouldn't have to throw too much eq on it? right or worng?
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