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Originally Posted by Table Of Tone  Must have been a bad outboard combination in the chain, a bad set of tubes or a jittery clock or something.
Or maybe you were working on some really dense mixes that didn't suit it?
I know that Manley used EH tubes in some positions for a while and believe me, that would explain it!
Those tubes had some real problems around two years ago.
My mastering version MP has Jan NOS 12AU7's and 6414's in it and it sounds killer! |
Well, I didn't go as far as playing with tubes on the demo unit ... I wasn't even close enough interested in the box to do that.
What I was hearing was the familiar "Manley" sound that I know pretty well and long time ago I thought sounded great ... well, in the midrange at least... Until I discovered EAR and such... BTW, EAR is the only tube gear I left alone, never felt I wanted to change anything there. I know people who have played with tubes though.
To sum it up, I'm not saying MP or any Manley is bad or anything, or that I couldn't work with it - it is just not my personal choice of tone (any more), at least for mastering. Neither is API for example and a lot of other things , which doesn't mean they don't work great for a lot of people. A matter of choice... and obviously the rest of the chain. One MUST try ALL of the available options in their own place at the same time if at all possible and decide for themselves! Which is what Matt is trying to do here and why I'm interested in his and other people's findings.
"Must have been a bad outboard combination in the chain" - I start without a chain and from the "flat" setting when demoing
"a bad set of tubes" - hmm, not noisy or microphonic, otherwise why were they there in the first place if not good ? Honestly, it wasn't faulty "BAD"... I know how much can sometimes be improved with re-valving though...
"or a jittery clock or something. Or maybe you were working on some really dense mixes that didn't suit it?" - any other ideas why I didn't like it? Maybe because
I had EAR 822s, 825, SPL Passeq and the Pullet next to it?
I admit I might have otherwise even bought it ....
Who knows what will happen after I get to demo the Buzz unit... it's never ending as you know.