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Old 20th April 2009   #31
Fuzzhead
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markchatwin View Post
the bottom line is his P-Split doesn't cut it as a splitter for players seeking the "original" tone
I'm doing pretty much the same thing here Mark...recording a direct signal and a miced signal together, then reamping the direct signal using different mics, cabs and heads.

If you are going to use 2 x 20ft cables, there's only 2 outcomes:

1. Live with the capacitance effect of 2 long instrument cables (loss of tone...yuk! Although some old blues guys dig it, Albert Collins for one.)

2. Put a buffered device in the middle...which will also change the tone slightly.

I have a P-Split II ordered , from what I've read (a lot!) it reproduces exactly the original signal to both outputs unbuffered...so any change in tone from that point is the result of extra cable capacitance. Obviously I've yet to test it properly.

It seems if you want an unbuffered split, go with the Lehle, I think it's the only transparent one...and for a buffered split, there's Little Labs and Radial. BUT, you can always add a buffered pedal to the Lehle, there's no way to 'unbuffer' a signal. A lot of people don't like that buffered sound, so I think Lehle went the right route here in leaving that choice open. I guess he could make a more expensive one with buffered outputs also, or both...

Depends what your priority is, since I'm reamping I want to get the signal in direct as uncoloured as possible.


Anyhow, here's my solution...I'll be leaving the P-Split next to the preamp with a short Mogami patch lead, and running as short a cable as I can to the amp...I'll add a buffered pedal to that if I need to.

GTRS -> P SPLIT (output #1)-> (short patch lead) -> MILLENNIA STT-1 PREAMP #1 (D.I. INPUT)

-------> P SPLIT (output #2)-> (possibly a buffered pedal, as short a cable as possible) -> DIEZEL HERBERT MKII ->RECTO OR VINTAGE MARSHALL CABS -> MIC -> MILLENNIA STT-1 PREAMP #2 (MIC INPUT)

I use a cheap radial ProRMP to reamp, it's great! Once you set the control to match directly plugging in, it works perfectly. No wallwarts to worry about either, so I can run a long cable to the amp, or run a balanced line to the ProRMP on top of the head, with a short patch lead.

Also with cables, I got a couple of Evidence Audio cables for recording when I bought the Diezel some years back, but I can't say I can hear any difference from my Mogami stage lead, which is a much nicer cable to use. I haven't tried Monsters, but I thought their rep was a bit suss now? Anyhow, might be worth making up some nice Mogami leads with neutrik plugs to fit your room size, to cut down on the capacitance somewhat...I find a 12ft is perfect for around the desk, if you could cut it down to close to 20 ft total (both leads) unbuffered you shouldn't have any tone loss from a single 20ft.

My 2c anyhoot.
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