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Old 7th April 2009   #4
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I then got 12 bass traps (six 4" and six 2" mineral wool) and put them where i thought (probably incorrectly) they were supposed to go. (see pic)
i am planning on getting 6 more as soon as i have the funds.
There are a couple of issues as I see it. First you have two repeating dimensions in the room, and second, the room is small. So from the start you have to realize that it's going to take a bunch of treatment to get the room under control. Personally I wouldn't put a trap under 4" thick in that room just because of the size and repeating dimensions; a good broadband trap will handle the highs just like a 2" panel plus add bass trapping down into the 60's where you're definitely going to need it.

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The 2" panels at the reflection points and on the front wall can probably stay, but I'd replace the 2" panel on the back wall with at least one 6" bass trap, and preferably with two 6" bass traps. After that you'll need to add four more 4" traps for the corners, then I'd do 4" bass traps in a cloud above your head. Don't put any more 2" panels into the room.

i had to place my monitors on the lower tier of my desk because they are way too high when on the top...the tweeters are ear height currently, and i am in the proper triangle. I have a 12" sub behind the desk in the middle of the wall.
Like Glenn, I suspect that the sub is causing many more problems than it's solving. I use the LSR4328's, and I have used the 4326's...they'll produce all the way down to 50Hz pretty reliably. That 12" sub along a 10'H/10'D is putting a bunch of energy into the 50Hz primary mode.

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i assumed doing all this would make for a better freq response...not fixing all my problems, but what happened is something i did not expect. my room sounds awesome when i walk in...like i'd love to record anything in there...but my monitors sound downright terrible. in the corner with no treatment it sounded fairly decent, but now it is absolutely impossible to mix at all. My bass freqs (up to about 100hz) have been somewhat tamed, but my mid lows (150-400ish) are simply gone. My high mids are insanely loud (2k-5k) and my highs are actually alright.
seriously it sounds like i just bought a pair of cheap crate speakers when in fact i have some decent jbl's.
From your diagram it doesn't look like you've got anything on the ceiling, and that could be part of the problem. Low mid problems are often caused by a floor bounce. I also think that your low mids were probably scooped out to begin with, but the problem was masked by the bigger low end issues you had until you put treatment into the room. Now that you've tamed those peaks you can hear the other problems clear as a bell. That's very, very typical for a room that size.

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Surely i am doing something very wrong and was hoping to have some suggestions as to what that might be.
I don't think you're doing anything wrong at all...you're just not done yet, that's all. My room is a bit larger than yours and I have 14 244's, five Monsters and five 242's in mine...and I don't have any repeating dimensions. It's very common to expose problems in your room when you start treating it.

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