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when i hear a lot of the neptunes drum programming it makes me think that they listen to quite a lot of jazz in that it has an almost polyrhythmic feel. i'm not saying its like full on buddy rich or anything but you get that feeling of two rhythms kind of fighting it out and they do it in a real nice minimalist style as well - you know like a kick thats just a little late that gives the loop a whole different flavour. i think frontin's a good example
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