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Old 11th August 2005   #12
Oneleven
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Humboldt Park - also Known as Lil San Juan... Chicago, USG
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All I dare say is what are you trying to accomplish by bringing up reggaeton?

Are you trying to validate it's current existence within american pop-music alongside hip-hop? I mean this is a gear/technique forum, wtf is the point of this thread?
Actually guy, even though my first post was rather general and vague, I think I did bring up some points related to production...

If you're so concerned about me wasting time or space or whatever with this thread, why don't you go hate on one of the threads about Mobb Deep, or Liquid Swords, etc...

I basically just wanted to start a thread about reggaeton, and see what people did with it...

Though I think a larger point might be surfacing here - I mean as rather marginalized as hiphop/ "urban" music is on this site, you might as well assume that the Earth stopped just south of Key West when searching around on here... lol

I mean, it already seems to me that the overall sentiment here to reggaeton fluctuates somewhere between derision and outright hostility - just maybe it's because alotta ya'll don't understand hardly a word said in all them tracks that come blaring through all ya'll's windows this summer, hmmm? Just an assumption...
You know, there's actually more than a negligent amount of real content in alotta them tracks - reggaeton has sparked debate and uproar in Puerto Rican society over question of race, class, and alienation in very public ways, and with the same unforgiving swagger , youthful contempt for ossified social structures and strictures, and ghetto pride that hip hop has at its best... It's not just all "Pa que lo bailen, Pa que lo gocen..."
Please hip hoppers, especially, don't be so quick to dismiss reggaeton in the same cavalier manner that all them rock heads and old jazz cats tend to do with us...

As for repetetive rythm, it's not like people don't rock whole albums or whole record collections of blues, son, merengue, cumbia, zouk, banda, Compas, and all sorts of genres that are based on specific rythmic signatures and tempos...
I mean, listen to "The Infamous" or "Dah Shinin'" or whatever classic grimy hip hop record - it's not like the tempo or backbeat really varies all that much right?

I of course don't entertain the idea that reggaeton's current crossover appeal will necessarily leave any kind of especially profound or lasting impact on the general club scene or musical psyche of the American mainstream... I mean, all pop fads are of course destined to fade... When I say that it's here to stay, I mean that kids in Santiago de Cuba, and Cartagena, and Maracaibo, in Samana and Colon, in the caserios of Puerto Rico, and the urban barrios of the U.S. have created and are just really beginning to develop what is, arguably, the most vibrant and influential music of the Spanish Caribbean since salsa exploded from the slums of New York 4 decades ago... And the Spanish Carribean has, after all, been powerfully and indelibly influencing popular music around the world for centuries... (I mean, without the mambo craze in the '50's, rock heads wouldn't have precious classics like "Louie, Louie" or "Wildthing" to do raucous, drunken renditions of...)
lol - So, if anyone find themselves annoyed at this thread, forgive me for thinking that at least some people on here might actually give a f*ck...

Now, I'm hoping people might actually have something more substantial to say about reggaeton - you know, gear wise, technique wise... Just basic auditory impressions wise...
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