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Originally Posted by grimepoch  So I came to this thread to help me understand post terminology, and now I feel like I am left with more questions than answers!  I jest, I actually have learned a lot from this thread as I am trying to absorb as much as I can.
What I don't understand is this, re-recording. My experience so far is I have done lots of free work for SCAD student projects (max 15 minute films) and have done a feature length film.
What I get sent on a GOOD project is a Final Cut project where someone else has placed in all the audio they have so far. Typically it's all the audio from the shotgun, fight noises the fight coordinator has put in, some foley that they added, and sometimes even song suggestions.
I take this and export it and bring it into whatever DAW I am using (PT now, was DP).
Everything I get is 'recorded' digital. I just manipulate it, or add to it.
I don't understand those concepts of what maybe in this small capacity has not been done. Just trying to understand as my projects get bigger, where all these things AND terminology fit in.
Since at this time I am not at a 5.1 system (working on it!) I did what I would have considered I guess a stereo printmaster and also provided a bunch of stems (the term the other mixing house involved used). I provided Dialog, SFX, Foley, Background Noise and Music. The reason, a third party was doing the 5.1 mix on what I did.
These stems were mixing so that at unity gain, summed, they provided my final stereo mix.
Did I somehow do rerecording? dubbing?
I did learn about academy leaders at 2-pops! So at least I am making progress. Just trying to fill in all the gaps and make sure I understand the nomenclature as I continue to pass my work on to other studios for the parts I cannot do.
Thanks!
Rick
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Well, Rick, actually not a bad question. i must commend you on learning the idea of Leaders/countdowns and 2 pops. This is a bit of knowledge that all in audio post need to know. It surprises me how many new film editors fresh out of film school, when asked to provide these simple and essential items have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and always seem to flub up the first several attempts. Why isn't this taught in film school? (or maybe i should ask, 'why isn't this learned in film school?') If you are going to come out of school, you will no doubt be someone's intern or assistant. This is the type of thing that you really need to know, and is the fault of teachers and students alike that this is not stressed more.
Re-recording mixers, often called 'dubbers' in europe and some other areas, according to
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"AKA: Sound re-recording mixer
A member of the sound crew responsible for mixing the final sound elements (dialogue, music, sound effects and foley). In most feature films and some television shows there is a crew of three re-recording mixers (one for dialog, one for sound effects and foley and one for music.) Sometimes in television the music mixer mixes the foley for expediency. There are also two-person crews in which the dialog mixer (generally considered the lead mixer) mixes music as well, with the other person mixing sound effects and foley."
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Since many features are not mixed ITB, audio is still routed through a mixer. They take the sound recorded on set, SFX, Foley, and Music, which has been edited over many weeks, played out by HD systems, mix it, passing the audio through the mixer, and 're-record' the audio onto the awaiting recording device. Generally, it is first 'pre-mixed' by flavor, (Dialog, Sfx, etc) into stems. then during the final mix, these stems are then sent back through the board, and re-recorded as the 'final mix'. All durring this process, at least on the majors i've worked on, there is generally several conforms, countless coffee runs, several temp mixes, and at least 3 or 4 shouting matches between the director and some overworked producer/editor or the like.
With a lot of the industry mixing on ICONS, in the box, this has all been replaced with what you described, with the mixer simply manipulating the sessions that the editors produce, or they themselves edit. ITB vs. OTB? You decide.