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Originally Posted by H-Rezz  The reality ......
Digi 003 (Rack - Factory Bundle) - $1549
+$500production toolkit, to only get to 48tracks
+$300 for a convolution Reverb
+$300 for Sampler
+$800-1500 for a decent library and softsynths of sounds to cover most aspect of production , up to individual need ....
+$1000, special effects Chorus,flanges,filters , spatial enhances , delay designing etc
etc etc
Conservative total = $4500
Logic Studio + Ensemble, everything of the above and more(+3 other programs, 50 gig sound library) with better convertors and pres and no limit to track count, Plus PDC and more efficient engine for plugins and softsynths = $2400 
If i was still a P.Tools user HD will be the only thing i would consider, if not for HD there is better offerings out there from other companies . |
First of all - Music Production Toolkit includes a convolution reverb. And a synth (whether or not you like it or think it's any good is a different question). So knock off $300 right there. Plus Chorus and filters are included in the default Digirack plugins (perhaps they're good, perhaps not. but they're there). On top of the fact that I listed the price for the factory bundle of the 003 - which includes more filters, delays, synths, and other effects, etc... so you can knock of even more.
Edit: I forgot about Structure Free. It's a free download from Digi. Cost..... free. So there's a sampler right there.
Plus you include things like sfx libraries - but not every person needs it. It's nice that Logic gives it to you but but a lot of people don't need it all - the way I see it you're adding value to Logic alone (does Cubase come with an sfx library? How about DP? Wait, maybe Nuendo (also funny how no one brought up Nuendo... (oh. wait. it costs $1700 for the software alone).....), then applying a corresponding value in dollars to Pro Tools.
The difference is that you are comparing value while I was comparing price. Yeah Logic has a lot of stuff in it - I'll probably buy logic (though I doubt it'll ever become my primary DAW) simply for many of the features and for some of the reasons that you listed - it's a complete package. We're also assuming that the software has the same ease of use and functionality.
I don't hate logic. I think it's a good value. My point is simply that many of the Pro Tools alternatives that people say are so much cheaper - aren't in fact that much cheaper. People make it sound like you can get a complete recording setup for $200 while Pro Tools will cost at least 10x that amount - that simply isn't the case. And for people who hate Pro Tools, and use something else, a lot of the "pro tools haters" spend an awful lot of time talking about what Digi would need to to do to win them over and get them to use Pro Tools. Just find it odd, that even people who hate Pro Tools and Digi seem to spend a lot of time talking about them. Look - if you don't like Digi and Pro Tools than don't use their product. That simple.