I definitely here what you are saying Thrill, but do you not agree that the convolution based reverb plug ins are light years ahead of any other reverb plug ins. I'm personally a big fan of analog reverbs, springs, plates and of course real rooms, I don't think many hardware units can capture the character of such sounds without using convolution. Hardware reverbs do definitely still have their place in the studio, but I have definitely seen a massive trend away from them even in big mix rooms with plently of tasty outboard verbs. I haven't used a 960L so I can't comment on that but I do have a fair knowledge of most of the other standards, I really like AMS RMX16 for digital verb and of course the classic PCM70 and PCM60, been digging an origianl 224 recently too, nice and crunchy!!!!