That's why he invented the Valvet Voice. I never forget when I heard my first VM-1, through a Grace Pre, on a female popish, voice, through 1032s at 95DB, ripped my head off and my eyes crossed! Granted that was the wrong combo. They're definately great mics in the right application. They probably don't need an aggressive pre in a lot of cases. I agree though, the Valvet is a great mic. My KHE through the SLAM! blows my mind...