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Originally Posted by samw@SSL  Regarding the other comment about the stopping of support for the 4000, unfortunately as we are an EU based manufacturer we are beholden to EU regulations regarding RoHS and WEE compliance. Sadly most of the 4000 series is not compliant and therefore we cannot supply it.
Perhaps you could lobby your M.E.P?
Best wishes,
Sam
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Hi Sam
I know you can't sell new 4000 series anymore but I'm sure you could still supply spares and support. It's not a problem though. There are enough people out there who can maintain the 4000. And I know most of the companies who supplied SSL with the parts.
I asked SSL for a system disk for the G+ computer last year, when I bought my desk and they couldn't give me one.
The same for the user manuals (the desk came with none).
I'm sure this has nothing to do with RoHS and WEE compliance.
I didn't blame you or SSL for stopping support BTW. All I said was if the same happens to the Duality one day you are much better off with the 4000, because at least you are still able to fix it.
It almost sounds like I'm on a crusade against SSL but the only thing that winds me up is that SSL is so desperate to sell their latest Duality, AWS, etc that a lot of untruths get out there. I know some people got scared when purchasing 4000's with facts that are not true. If anything, you take quite a risk when buying the Duality. It's technology that has not the same track record like the 4000 series, be it sound, design or maintenance. It's not even been built by the same people & company who built the 4000. All they share is the name SSL.
A 4000/600/8000 can be fixed on the spot within 10 minutes for 90% of the usual problems that occur (I.e. spwapping an OP amp that sits on sockets in one of the channels). The same can't be said about the Duality, where you have to send channels & parts of the desk to SSL. Am I right?
If SSL would stick to the facts I had no problem with anything.
I think the Duality is a decent product (apart from a few things I personally don't like). So if you want to sell it there is no need to scare people who are looking into legacy SSL products. The 4000/6000/8000 and Duality sound like two opposite ends. The have almost nothing in common soundwise. Potential clients should sit down and test both formats. See what suits them best soundwise and featurewise. (the routing etc. it very different with the 4000 having a small fader, etc)
But it's time to buy these horror stories of no parts available for the 4000 and high electricity bills. Yes, that SSL withdrew support for the 4000 series (for what ever reason) certainly helped to convince some people to go for the Duality.
You are doing me actually a favour because that means there will me more spares available for my 4000 in the future.
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Well that is odd as that sounds like just the surface, if you add in the rack as well you should be around 5000w or something is wrong.
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What do you mean with 'add the rack as well'?
The rack IS the only thing that draws power. And it draws approx 2,000W.
2x PSU's for the desk, the changeover unit and the PSU for the computer. That's all there is for the desk. (see attached picture)
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