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jindrich · 8th February 2005

yeah Fletcher you're right on many of your comments.

Developing and building a mixer like that, would be quite risky giving the current path of technology obsolescence. Also, it has to be considered that competition might be developing a similar or better product.

Still think current offerings dont fill the gap, and that the product might succeed. If only it key focus on

-1) Obsolescence
-2) Features and NAME (status)
-3) PRICE

but above all, this one:
it's not bulding a digital mixer, but a Top Sounding and very Flexible console -to a moderate price, that... happens to be digital (because it's cheaper and more versatile than analog, and it CAN sound good if done right).

Regarding obsolescence, the only way reduce it to its smallest figure is to build the mixer in a modular configuration, like 4 components: controller, processors, I/O and software. You shouldn't need to change the micpres, converters or controller just to gain some functionality. Replace only what's needed, not everything.
Designed to last as much as possible. Anyhow, the controller, Pres and AES/MADI I/O could see 5 generations of the inners.
Also, constant updates and new features shouldn't be the ball of the game here. The Neve 80 series boards have hardly changed in 30 years, still they're very appreciated for what they are.

Regarding points 2 and 3, that's why I put the names of Massenburg and Yamaha on the table. Massenburg has both the name and reputation as well as the skills to build a killer product. On the other hand, Yamaha has the experience, manufacturing resources and marketing power to make the product a success, and keep it to a LOW PRICE.

It could be done for under 30k, or even less, like the dmx-r100 and the DM-2000

The Yamaha evolution:

DMP7 >> DMC1000 >> 02R >> DM-2000 >>>>>>>>> Massenburg-D console, putting the music first.

8th February 2005	#13
jindrich Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Palma+Stuttgart Posts: 1,599 Thread Starter	yeah Fletcher you're right on many of your comments. Developing and building a mixer like that, would be quite risky giving the current path of technology obsolescence. Also, it has to be considered that competition might be developing a similar or better product. Still think current offerings dont fill the gap, and that the product might succeed. If only it key focus on -1) Obsolescence -2) Features and NAME (status) -3) PRICE but above all, this one: it's not bulding a digital mixer, but a Top Sounding and very Flexible console -to a moderate price, that... happens to be digital (because it's cheaper and more versatile than analog, and it CAN sound good if done right). Regarding obsolescence, the only way reduce it to its smallest figure is to build the mixer in a modular configuration, like 4 components: controller, processors, I/O and software. You shouldn't need to change the micpres, converters or controller just to gain some functionality. Replace only what's needed, not everything. Designed to last as much as possible. Anyhow, the controller, Pres and AES/MADI I/O could see 5 generations of the inners. Also, constant updates and new features shouldn't be the ball of the game here. The Neve 80 series boards have hardly changed in 30 years, still they're very appreciated for what they are. Regarding points 2 and 3, that's why I put the names of Massenburg and Yamaha on the table. Massenburg has both the name and reputation as well as the skills to build a killer product. On the other hand, Yamaha has the experience, manufacturing resources and marketing power to make the product a success, and keep it to a LOW PRICE. It could be done for under 30k, or even less, like the dmx-r100 and the DM-2000 The Yamaha evolution: DMP7 >> DMC1000 >> 02R >> DM-2000 >>>>>>>>> Massenburg-D console, putting the music first.