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Originally Posted by dr.sound This is not true!! They don't remix the shows for DVD. When they do it's to replace music that they can't get the international rights to. RARELY do they remix. It isn't in the budget and they don't have the time. The DVD is a much better reference than a copy of a tape that is sent 20,000 miles up nad then down on a satelite into a compressor that is set on stun at the station!! |
Marti, I just opened a project that I made about 3 years ago (before I mixed my first action show) where I had a certain C.A.S. award winning episode of an action show:
1) ripped off of DVD (5.1),
2) copied directly from the TV station's master (stereo, before compression) and
3) recorded from a cable provider AFTER broadcast (mono).
I can't state which show is this, because I would compromise my source.
The differences between the DVD and TV master were not subtle. Of course, the main difference was in that the TV master was compressed to fit the delivery spec, and it was noticeable mostly on music, and loud SFX.
The second difference that one notices is that the dialog is a few dB louder VS the ambiances (compared to DVD), and the third is that surround FX were downmixed very, very low (compared to standard -3dB downmix for the surrounds).
Average dialog vs peak for DVD was about 22-24dB, while for the TV master it was about 15-16dB.
So, if they didn't do a full remix for DVD (as I previously thought), then it was probably the other way around - they originally mixed for DVD (albeit not using it's full range), and then just did another pass with some downmix tweaking, or maybe the downmix and dynamic compression were done alltogether automatically somewhere else - but the result is noticeably different.
I suppose the HDTV versions are even closer to the DVD mix? Same?
Unfortunately, TV is still SD and
MONO in Serbia, so I won't be able to figure that out soon