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Old 29th June 2008   #4
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Originally Posted by Jesse Peterson View Post
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Here, same rules apply as with the theatrical mix, except that the room is calibrated lower (see the DUC sticky)

Just one question on this.. I've read that DUC sticky a few times and don't see a definitive answer. Is there an actual lower ref level when mixing a movie for dvd, or is the lower level mentioned due to smaller rooms? Other than cleaning up some of the HF junk that the curve/screen hides, Are there significant level changes to the same film when it goes to dvd? I've always wanted to know this.

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Here's a thread where Tomlinson Holman himself explains this:
Mixing levels for Dolby Digital: DVD vs. theatrical - The Digital Video Information Network

So, yes - it is only because of the room size/monitoring. Theatrical printmaster can thus be printed directly to DVD(*), dialnorm would be set to -27, so the player itself would trim the playback by 4dB - that is how your 85dB calibrated room playback becomes 81dB. When I mix for DVD, my room is, in fact, calibrated to 85dB - I set my limiter to -4dBFS, and mix by ear, so my dialog ends up about -31dBFS, instead of -27dBFS. Then, when exporting, I add 4dB gain after the limiter, so the dialog ends up at -27dBFS, while the peaks end up just below 0dBFS. I would get the same if I calibrated my room to 81dB, but then I couldn't watch DVDs - the player would duck 4dB further, so I'd be listening at 77dB.
But 81dB is not a good volume for every room, so the best way to calibrate the room (IMHO), is to play many reference DVDs (movies), and try to set a common listening level that will suit them all. Then you can check what level is that to know where you're at (I ended up at 79dB, because I'm in a very small room), and to be able to maintain that calibration.

(*) The re-mixing of theatrical releases for DVD does not happen because of different reference, or DVDs dynamic range - it happens because of:
1) the x-curve, as you suggested;
2) because of different target listening environment - home is not as quiet as the theater, sound is often reproduced from poor speakers, so this re-mix serves mostly for the quieter parts to be raised a bit;
3) the specifics of near-field listening - some errors in details and imaging can get revealed. Also, loud parts can get too loud when listening close.

That said, I will update the DVD section a bit, so that it states the differences in room and monitoring, not just calibration.
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