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Old 2nd June 2008, 10:06 PM   #98
Squids
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Interesting. Well, the best thing to do is to try it somehow to be sure. I've not seen hi hats work better in anything else but I'd have to try it out and experiment which I plan to do soon... when I get a breather! As for BFD2 support, we're finishing up our first BFD2 kits with Jerry Marotta, Danny Gottlieb, John Blackwell, Ed Greene and Nick D'Virgilio in a product called Drum Masters. So that library will be both Kontakt (maybe adding in Structure at the last minute or as an update) and BFD2. One could compare back to back the difference in the format I suppose. No plans yet for OWD in BFD2 but you never know. Currently it would require more discrete channels than BFD2 uses but Skot is making it so it can use custom mic channels and then it will be possible... just not sure if it is necessary as it is a MOUNTAIN of work and we've still got Neil Peart's kit and the entire Ken Scott Collection to do this year (Billy Cobham, Rod Morgenstein, Woody Woodmansey, Bob Siebenberg and Terry Bozzio). Also, Ocean Way Drums is really a join product with Ocean Way Recording and we decide everything together whereas the other products are Sonic Reality only so I decide everything on those... therefore my love for BFD2 and other sampler formats (even potentially Superior or EZDrummer at some point if it isn't too prohibitive in any way technically or otherwise) is such that we try to spread the love and reach the people that love drums whatever format they like to see them in. Kontakt really did suit Ocean Way Drums well though and it was customized quite heavily. Cool features in the scripts like each mic's level turning off the voice so it doesn't take up polyphony if the volume is all the way down.

Anyway, the hi hat is the trickiest thing. Even if you have OWD which I think is one of the best hi hats in the programming there is STILL a fair amount of tweaking on the TD20 you need to do so it is just right to each drummer. Then that VH hat controller sometimes doesn't send the midi note!!!!! Can be a threshold thing but after tweaking it a bunch of times I've noticed if you play fast sometimes it just doesn't send the note out. So it's not a perfect system no matter what you use. Ironically seems to work better within itself than it does with external midi. Could be the nature of the beast I guess. I have a V-Drum set that I love but I tend to program on the keys and there is tremendous possibilities to get hats to sound just right from the keys... just have to learn the way we do it with the I-Map (as discussed above). I might do a focused finger drumming lesson on just hi hats at some point so people really get what can be done this way. It's all deliberate and make sense... at least to me! ;)

By the way, you mean you have a lingering post on KVR? I'll have to check. I was right about "Relayer" being from YES though right? You know we have stereo samples from Bruford and soon Alan White coming but those are smaller downloadable kits... still fun though. Plus their grooves.
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