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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor  That's still 22 more busses than what you are thinking about setting up. |
True, but remember, the main thing I'm using is just faders and pan. I'm not really using the console for serious mixing. It's only getting used like a summing box would.....partly thanks to my addiction to automation. So, why not try and shoot for something better (character, summing buss, recall, dependability) if all I'm using are faders and pan?
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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor Is it a sound thing or a functions thing? |
Little of both, but mainly a functions thing. Could be that I haven't warmed up to it fully though. But, it's an early-mid 80's mid-level console. It just doesn't have the features that I would want/need if I were to actually, fully mix on it. Now, an Amek Einstein or Mozart......, I've still never used one....but every one I talk to (engineers, producers, even techs) tells me to stay away.....but it does have the functions I would want...,...so maybe it could be modded to hell.......but after you consider the time/money involved........is it worth it? Everytime I have this conversation, it ends with, "just get an SSL".
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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor Not too limited?
I can't see what's more limiting than working with 2 auxes and no busses in terms of mixing. Even working ITB you have more than this. |
Yeah, but this isn't for mixing......just summing groups/busses with level and pan, with the ability to use a final drum buss compressor. It's all I'm using on the Neotek right now.
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Originally Posted by thethrillfactor Well there aren't currently that many summing boxes that have auxes. Also none have group busses. The Tonelux system is the only one currently and its really more like a Lego mixer instead of a summing box. |
I think (or maybe just hope) there's gonna be some fairly interesting new products available in the next couple years. Aurora Audio is apparently coming out with some kind of 8 channel aux/buss router.
EDIT: It's not like I'm buying these summing boxes tomorrow. I'm perfectly fine with the Neotek right now. It's leaps and bounds better than the SC Ghost that it replaced, and there's
much bigger bottlenecks in my system to deal with right now. Plus, I do enjoy the bling factor of having a big analog console.....and, bookings have gone up since it's been here. Although there've been so many upgrades (console, mics, outboard, painting, drywall, art, new couch, acoustic treatments, monitors, headphone system, etc......plus my mixing chops have improved alot......couple of recent, personal break-throughs) lately it's hard to attribute more business with any one specific thing.