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andrewsc · 16th May 2008, 10:05 PM

I see what you mean, and I'm all for using a sampler for one's own sounds, and interested in streamlining the process.

I'm used to opening the DAW simply to route the midi signal from my controller keyboard to an instrument.

If I weren't doing that, a program like SoundForge would be my next choice.

With the example of grabbing a sample off of a turntable, I guess I still think doing in in the DAW environment is less hassle than in a hardware sampler, because if it's in the hardware sampler you then might have to worry about getting it out of the sampler and into the DAW for whatever reason, or its on a zip disk in a brand specific format and that could get lost, damaged, SCSI transfer, naming the file, tiny screen, etc, etc.

So to follow the example with Logic, you'd need to have a spare audio track with some audio inputs ready, [have audio record path set properly], [have track name typed in properly], hit record, grab the vinyl sample, trim/crop the sample as needed, know where the sample is getting recorded, or record it into the desired location, or save a copy of the sample in the desired location. The rest is how easy your softsampler is to use. In Battery you just click on a cell and then browse for the audio file and its in there, then save the Battery kit.

In the DAW (Logic) environment sometimes I make mistakes that lead to not clearly understanding the actual location of the audio clip on the hard drive, then of course its hard to load into the softsampler.

I'm not always sure what directory the file was recorded to because I often just forget to update the "audio record path" so audio clips often end up in some unexpected folder.

The second problem is because when I record audio in Logic if the track name is Audio1, the wav file is often named something like Audio-1-122, which makes locating the proper file difficult since the filename lacks meaning. If you have the track you are recording on named properly the filename of the audio clip should assume the track name (there is an option to activate for this). One thing in Logic that made my life easier is the "Track Name to Objects" keycommand, it may rename audio clips accordingly (but I'm not sure at the moment). The audio filenames can be changed in the audio window anyway.

If I'm sure of exactly where the file was recorded and what its called, it's pretty easy to put it into the softsampler.

Kontakt is a bit complex, have you tried Battery?

16th May 2008, 10:05 PM	#7
andrewsc Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 180	I see what you mean, and I'm all for using a sampler for one's own sounds, and interested in streamlining the process. I'm used to opening the DAW simply to route the midi signal from my controller keyboard to an instrument. If I weren't doing that, a program like SoundForge would be my next choice. With the example of grabbing a sample off of a turntable, I guess I still think doing in in the DAW environment is less hassle than in a hardware sampler, because if it's in the hardware sampler you then might have to worry about getting it out of the sampler and into the DAW for whatever reason, or its on a zip disk in a brand specific format and that could get lost, damaged, SCSI transfer, naming the file, tiny screen, etc, etc. So to follow the example with Logic, you'd need to have a spare audio track with some audio inputs ready, [have audio record path set properly], [have track name typed in properly], hit record, grab the vinyl sample, trim/crop the sample as needed, know where the sample is getting recorded, or record it into the desired location, or save a copy of the sample in the desired location. The rest is how easy your softsampler is to use. In Battery you just click on a cell and then browse for the audio file and its in there, then save the Battery kit. In the DAW (Logic) environment sometimes I make mistakes that lead to not clearly understanding the actual location of the audio clip on the hard drive, then of course its hard to load into the softsampler. I'm not always sure what directory the file was recorded to because I often just forget to update the "audio record path" so audio clips often end up in some unexpected folder. The second problem is because when I record audio in Logic if the track name is Audio1, the wav file is often named something like Audio-1-122, which makes locating the proper file difficult since the filename lacks meaning. If you have the track you are recording on named properly the filename of the audio clip should assume the track name (there is an option to activate for this). One thing in Logic that made my life easier is the "Track Name to Objects" keycommand, it may rename audio clips accordingly (but I'm not sure at the moment). The audio filenames can be changed in the audio window anyway. If I'm sure of exactly where the file was recorded and what its called, it's pretty easy to put it into the softsampler. Kontakt is a bit complex, have you tried Battery?