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Originally Posted by masteringhouse  I would tend to doubt that it had anything to do with using a multi-mono plug but more possibly the type of noise shaping used for the dither. What type of dither did you use? |
Thanks for the replies, all.
I used Pow-R type 3. When I've auditioned the 3 different types in the past, type 3 always seemed the least destructive to fidelity, although its effect is audible. I often use Digidesign dither without noise shaping for quick refs.
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Originally Posted by Dos Are you sure this wasn't a result of Pro Tools' 'Bounce to disk' function?
My mixes sound different when I 'bounce to disk'.
I couldn't even describe, in words, what that difference is and it's not always worse either, just different.
I prefer to bus all the tracks to an audio track, record and export file. |
Same here. When I'm sending out files for mastering, I record to a stereo track instead of bouncing to disk. There are huge threads about bouncing to disk, so I don't want to open that can of worms here.
I haven't had the chance to rule out suspects or identify the culprit. The next time I meet the clients is this coming weekend, so I'll have time to experiment and re-examine my past conclusions about dither.
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Originally Posted by beachhunt Er, if they were comparing the 24-bit session with the 16-bit output file, it seems a lot more likely they would object to the difference between 24 and 16 bit audio than objecting to the dither. Compare truncation and dither, see which sounds worse to them (if time/situation allows). |
That is worth checking into. Even if they weren't planning to send the files to a ME, I wouldn't want to give them mixes that they hear as compromised. Not every client has the budget for the final step of taking it to a true ME. For those who don't and mention hearing their creations become somewhat degraded, I'd like to get this question resolved and not have to think about it in the future.
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Originally Posted by beachhunt If I misunderstood the above, then perhaps just try another dither if you have the option. Or maybe they'll actually like truncation after all... |
On previous rough mixes for them, I used a different dither (Digidesign's) with noise shaping off. There were no comments about mixes sounding worse. I think they're sweating the final details as we near completion, which is good. No other clients have ever commented on these matters before.