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drmad69 · 6th May 2008, 06:37 PM

Scott's right about the v1 driver working better.
But you can't run any other apps with it; only asio and there is a buss master
settings that applies and at one point alot of the zlm/dm was incorect for
version 3. It however changes things such as slot order, it's the only driver
that was reliable about that...

But I did respond to your PM too;

These cards simply suck. I sold mine. Most people I know have too.

The PCIe card might be better as they claimed there was bandwidth issues;

Which is why those with magma chassis on PCIe have less issues;

However, as soon as you add another lynx card to the mix; sometimes

which is the same buss on a p4 type board, they fight over each other

and the performance on one card sucks and starts to make issues happen.

In fact; there were so many problems there is a hidden control key diagnostic

display. There is where you will see the two cards drastically different.

Lynx finally suggested I buy new cards too; There are a handfull of poeple

trying to use their cards as advertised, not in a limited fasion and those

aren't enough users to pay for a hardware mod and a recall; which is obviously

what is/was in order.. However, I don't think they ever found the nail in the coffin.

You know, scott, dozens of us have called, we only get one tech support guy

paul, the situation changed and changed, and I've seen this with other computer

products, they are licking their wounds. Now that the PCIe card is out, it will

be interesting to see if anyone reports the same random hosed behavior.

To characterize it, it works like this; the original issue I noted before they fixed
the playback stream is as follows, (this is from memory.)

After any dropout; regardless of the cause, and 1 is enough.

(If you minimize and maximize the nuendo/cubase screen 5 or 6 times, during playback or not you will have a dropout.)

The fixed the issue that stems would be in phase (it clicks on playback) HOWEVER
IIRC it is still OFF in relation to the record stream (they don't drop sample on the record stream.)

SO...............................

If you have a external FX, you will go out of phase and *STAY* that way until an
ASIO reset.

If you are recording to do mastering you will be OFF that sample amount until an
ASIO reset..

It really has DICK to do with the UAD cards; they just load the system/pci buss and it is easier to cause a dropout. But with NO UAD cards the simple minimize
maximize bug will do it. NO OTHER CARD MANUFACTURER OUT OF the DOZEN I've
tested drop or go out of phase with this ONLY LYNX.. Paul said it's steinberg,
but in 2 years, steinberg hasn't both to fix it and SIMILAR issues happen on
other platforms (daw software)
it's just slightly different because of implementation..

Dawgear has been trying to solve this issue like I did and I just gave up after 3 years and AM MUCH happier with ANYTHING ELSE.

My external FX *NEVER* go out of sync with PT mix cards in cubase/nuendo OR PT

With the 9652 I got to test with they NEVER went out of sync; and I did alot of testing on this; because I eventually found that the behringer ada8000's are out of phase, nothing with nuendo/cubase... But I would *CONSTANTLY* have drift
with the lynx cards because I would FORGET and minimize the application to look at the #^%#%$ lynx mixer!

Again; these cards suck. Lynx knows this. They tried to boot me off the forum
for crying bloody murder about it.

So here is yet another person with the issue....

DAWGEAR, if you can afford to switch uad's motherboards stuff...

JUST GET A 9652 on trial loan or any RME-AES card..

I *PROMISE* YOU. All these FUC@$%ed up problems will dissapear.

You will be happy, you can continue working. And hopefully like myself,
still respond and help people that got *SCR*W*D* by this company.

Lynx can reply all they want, it is HOGWASH, the cards have a problem
with a HUGE amount of systems that require recall, but it would have
made the company go under. They still have yet to fix the problem; don't know how and can't offer a recall or an upgrade.

I personally think that had this been a tire, we would see a ford type of issue here.

6th May 2008, 06:37 PM	#10
drmad69 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 254	Scott's right about the v1 driver working better. But you can't run any other apps with it; only asio and there is a buss master settings that applies and at one point alot of the zlm/dm was incorect for version 3. It however changes things such as slot order, it's the only driver that was reliable about that... But I did respond to your PM too; These cards simply suck. I sold mine. Most people I know have too. The PCIe card might be better as they claimed there was bandwidth issues; Which is why those with magma chassis on PCIe have less issues; However, as soon as you add another lynx card to the mix; sometimes which is the same buss on a p4 type board, they fight over each other and the performance on one card sucks and starts to make issues happen. In fact; there were so many problems there is a hidden control key diagnostic display. There is where you will see the two cards drastically different. Lynx finally suggested I buy new cards too; There are a handfull of poeple trying to use their cards as advertised, not in a limited fasion and those aren't enough users to pay for a hardware mod and a recall; which is obviously what is/was in order.. However, I don't think they ever found the nail in the coffin. You know, scott, dozens of us have called, we only get one tech support guy paul, the situation changed and changed, and I've seen this with other computer products, they are licking their wounds. Now that the PCIe card is out, it will be interesting to see if anyone reports the same random hosed behavior. To characterize it, it works like this; the original issue I noted before they fixed the playback stream is as follows, (this is from memory.) After any dropout; regardless of the cause, and 1 is enough. (If you minimize and maximize the nuendo/cubase screen 5 or 6 times, during playback or not you will have a dropout.) The fixed the issue that stems would be in phase (it clicks on playback) HOWEVER IIRC it is still OFF in relation to the record stream (they don't drop sample on the record stream.) SO............................... If you have a external FX, you will go out of phase and STAY that way until an ASIO reset. If you are recording to do mastering you will be OFF that sample amount until an ASIO reset.. It really has DICK to do with the UAD cards; they just load the system/pci buss and it is easier to cause a dropout. But with NO UAD cards the simple minimize maximize bug will do it. NO OTHER CARD MANUFACTURER OUT OF the DOZEN I've tested drop or go out of phase with this ONLY LYNX.. Paul said it's steinberg, but in 2 years, steinberg hasn't both to fix it and SIMILAR issues happen on other platforms (daw software) it's just slightly different because of implementation.. Dawgear has been trying to solve this issue like I did and I just gave up after 3 years and AM MUCH happier with ANYTHING ELSE. My external FX NEVER go out of sync with PT mix cards in cubase/nuendo OR PT With the 9652 I got to test with they NEVER went out of sync; and I did alot of testing on this; because I eventually found that the behringer ada8000's are out of phase, nothing with nuendo/cubase... But I would CONSTANTLY have drift with the lynx cards because I would FORGET and minimize the application to look at the #^%#%$ lynx mixer! Again; these cards suck. Lynx knows this. They tried to boot me off the forum for crying bloody murder about it. So here is yet another person with the issue.... DAWGEAR, if you can afford to switch uad's motherboards stuff... JUST GET A 9652 on trial loan or any RME-AES card.. I PROMISE YOU. All these FUC@$%ed up problems will dissapear. You will be happy, you can continue working. And hopefully like myself, still respond and help people that got SCRWD by this company. Lynx can reply all they want, it is HOGWASH, the cards have a problem with a HUGE amount of systems that require recall, but it would have made the company go under. They still have yet to fix the problem; don't know how and can't offer a recall or an upgrade. I personally think that had this been a tire, we would see a ford type of issue here.