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Old 30th January 2008   #72
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Originally Posted by 3dchris View Post
I suggest you read http://akmedia.digidesign.com/suppor...ixer_26688.pdf
It appears that to some extend Kittonian is right. probably switching to master faders in PTHD solves the degradation problem. Any thoughts?

thx,

chris
I'm very familiar with that paper, and I think it shows why this whole fader loss thing is a myth. Here's a quote from the paper:

<Similar to analog mixers, the Pro Tools mixer is comprised of
individual input channels and a summing stage. At the input
stage, each channel’s 24-bit word is multiplied by 24-bit gain
and pan coefficients to create a 48-bit result. The new 48-bit
word contains the original 24 bits “shifted” lower in the 56-bit
register to allow for headroom and “footroom” below unity
gain, enabling channels to be turned down without losing
precision. Specifically, it’s possible to pull any channel fader
down to -90 dB and its signal still retains 24 bits of precision.
As channel faders are pulled down, there is a loss to the lower
bits of the newly extended 48-bit word which represent signals
down to about -240 dB—but a full 24 bits of precision is main-
tained down to -90 dB. >

In other words, your full 24 bit resolution is maintained as you lower the fader. It just sounds softer. There is no loss of resolution, or signal degradation. I don't understand your comment about "switching to master faders". Master faders are already always in place in Protools, and when you turn one on or "create" one you are simply revealing a piece of the architecture that is already there.

If someone likes analog faders better it's probably because they like the increased noise-to-signal ratio as the fader comes down. I mean, why dick around with little dabs of dither.

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