[allencollins]

Originally Posted by dbbubba

ALLENCOLLINS... I can't find your exact post, but you state that Stevie Ray Vaughan and even add that John Mayer are over-rated?
John Mayer probebly wouldn't be signed and widely known as he is if it wasn't for Stevie Ray, but that is another topic. John Mayer does have a cool voice.

If the pic on your posts is you playing that Strat then you of all people ought to know better than to slag off Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Let's ignore that I met him a few times and sat watching him and Double Trouble with four other people at a club. I saw him quite a few times at tiny clubs. This was in about 1982 before he was discovered. It was pretty well just what you hear on the Austin City Limits shows.
As a point of reference, I was sitting with my friend Joe Kubeck (another HIGHLY under-rated player) at a samll club in Dallas. Joe sat in with them and I could have as well, but they were more straight blues players and I just couldn't "say much" in that style back then. I'm just not in their leaque as a traditonal Texas blues player.

I grew up in Dallas playing guitar and I can probebly play EVERY lick that Stevie plays on the stuff you hear most often. I am strong player, but I play a different style than the straight blues guys like Stevie and others.

IMPORTANT PART:
What I CAN'T do (and I have played GTR for most of my 52 years on this planet) is voice those licks, melodies and figures with the conviction and passion that Stevie could. FEW people can or could.
This is what seperates the masses of players from the real deal.

If you know ANYTHING about what Stevie was playing, you would know that he isn't copping Jimi Hendrix. They are both copping previous blues cats.
Are you very familiar with Jimmy Reed?
The fact that Stevie uses a tone that is somewhat similar to Hendrix makes the stuff sound similar.
It isn't Stevie copying Hendrix. He did cover some of Hendrix's songs.
Perhaps you are not that aware of blues GTR, so I'll let you off easier.
You probebly think that you are hip to blues GTR, but obviously not.

Do your homework and then comment on Stevie being an over-rated player.

You simply DO NOT have a clue of what you are talking about.
You are also making a statement that contrdicts the opinion of a bunch of quite "educated" people, too.

I don't think that John Hammond Jr., Jackson Brown and David Bowie were demonstrating any lack of understanding true talent when they chose to work with Stevis and his band.

Listen to some more SRV and try to play it like him.
I doubt that you can.
I can't and I'm certianly no beginner!
I can do a good job, but I can't tap into the emotion that Stevie could.
Few players can.

He's a clone and gets way too much love. Horrible singer too.I'm sorry
I agree his playing on Lets Dance was admirable but he did leave that band
I'm sure the producers told him what and when to play.

On Pure technique I think he's great. Also I don't think he's a 'pure' Hendrix Clone I just threw that out there. I think he's a clone of many players. Albert collins? Albert King? one or the other. Johnnie Winter? Trower? (another hendrix clone too)

You are right I can't play like him and I don't want to. I try to develop a more unique less predictable style of playing.

Anyone can buy records and clone them. Being original is alot tougher. Look at Uli Roth, an Early Hendrix clone that totally broke the mold and created a unique style.

SRV is waaaaaaaaay overated. There are so many more original players that get no love. Guys that pioneered a sound. Even Johnny Ramone and the Great James hetfield are more original than SRV. They influenced many more bands and players than SRV ever will. And those two guys COULDN'T EVEN PLAY SOLO'S !!!!!! But they were original and have their own sound. That is so much more important and very tough to do. Even Ace Frehley from Kiss had his own sound. He plays one note and you know it's Ace. Stevie plays 1 note and you have to pull names out of a hat to help guess who it may be. Get it?

When you get a little older and more experienced you will get it. Until then, keep spinning that willy the whimp in you r caddilac coffin disk. How stupid id that song?


John Mayer? I could play of tapes of this guy from boston who I know that had that sound in the 80's. When I first heard Mayer on the radio a few years back I said cool That guy from Boston finally got signed. well come to find out it was someone else. Mayer is overated too.