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Old 28th December 2007   #364
dbbubba
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Originally Posted by allencollins View Post
Couldn't agree more. The second scorps guitar player to be exact right?
I was listening to Virgin Killer last week. I left the room for a minute, when I came back in and I swear I was listening to Joe Satriani for a moment. It caught me off guard. Joe totoaly stole his style from Roth.

What year was Virgin Killer? 76? Uli is really in the top 5 gtr player as far as originality. He really pioneered the whole neo classical/shredder thing when everyone else was still playing pentatonics blues licks and singing china grove. He did it before Dimeola!!!

As original as Uli was I still like the original scorps guitar player schenker the best. He was so good.
ALLENCOLLINS... I can't find your exact post, but you state that Stevie Ray Vaughan and even add that John Mayer are over-rated?
John Mayer probebly wouldn't be signed and widely known as he is if it wasn't for Stevie Ray, but that is another topic. John Mayer does have a cool voice.

If the pic on your posts is you playing that Strat then you of all people ought to know better than to slag off Stevie Ray Vaughan.
Let's ignore that I met him a few times and sat watching him and Double Trouble with four other people at a club. I saw him quite a few times at tiny clubs. This was in about 1982 before he was discovered. It was pretty well just what you hear on the Austin City Limits shows.
As a point of reference, I was sitting with my friend Joe Kubeck (another HIGHLY under-rated player) at a samll club in Dallas. Joe sat in with them and I could have as well, but they were more straight blues players and I just couldn't "say much" in that style back then. I'm just not in their leaque as a traditonal Texas blues player.

I grew up in Dallas playing guitar and I can probebly play EVERY lick that Stevie plays on the stuff you hear most often. I am strong player, but I play a different style than the straight blues guys like Stevie and others.

IMPORTANT PART:
What I CAN'T do (and I have played GTR for most of my 52 years on this planet) is voice those licks, melodies and figures with the conviction and passion that Stevie could. FEW people can or could.
This is what seperates the masses of players from the real deal.

If you know ANYTHING about what Stevie was playing, you would know that he isn't copping Jimi Hendrix. They are both copping previous blues cats.
Are you very familiar with Jimmy Reed?
The fact that Stevie uses a tone that is somewhat similar to Hendrix makes the stuff sound similar.
It isn't Stevie copying Hendrix. He did cover some of Hendrix's songs.
Perhaps you are not that aware of blues GTR, so I'll let you off easier.
You probebly think that you are hip to blues GTR, but obviously not.

Do your homework and then comment on Stevie being an over-rated player.

You simply DO NOT have a clue of what you are talking about.
You are also making a statement that contrdicts the opinion of a bunch of quite "educated" people, too.

I don't think that John Hammond Jr., Jackson Brown and David Bowie were demonstrating any lack of understanding true talent when they chose to work with Stevis and his band.

Listen to some more SRV and try to play it like him.
I doubt that you can.
I can't and I'm certianly no beginner!
I can do a good job, but I can't tap into the emotion that Stevie could.
Few players can.
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