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Old 7th December 2007, 09:16 AM   #23
thethrillfactor
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Originally Posted by peeder View Post
Yes it's a pain in the ass but a mix can take 8 hours and this takes 5 minutes once you're in the swing of it. It's not enough to get me to bail on my tools.

But it is EMBARASSING for the programmers involved. I would go to my manager and tell them that I was ashamed of working on a product that had this problem. It also affects HD even though their latency compensation is claimed to be automatic. Many of the plugins sadly lie about how much time they are taking to process. So a ping strategy is really the best way of doing things although the delay-type plugins must be set dry to not show confusing results.
I think lie is the wrong choice of word here.

What generally happens in the plug in world is that new plugs are released after the software has been sold so there is no way to update the compensation until a later version is sold with the correct one. Also keep in mind that HD compensation allows compensation up to a certain number of samples and once you pass this point it can't compensate.

And lastly tracking hardware inserts and shifting them back is not the most ideal either. The amount of latency going in and out of a converter is not a whole number but a whole number broken down to sub samples. Unfortunately no DAW that's out there(including PTools) shows a subsample grid display(and we are talking about 4 decimal points). The lowest they show is a 1 sample grid and while this is cool for plug ins its just not as accurate for analog inserts or digital processors.
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